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[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 144 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Tipping culture should die.

I'd rather have meals on the menu be what I pay. Include tax, service fees, and other garbage fees.

I went to Japanese restaurant in NYC. They took my card and they returned it. I asked about the tip. They said it was all included. Fucking dream.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 82 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Not being an American the whole idea of not including tax in the stated price just seems so alien. You expect me to work out what 12.5% of my bill is on the fly as I'm shopping? Fuck you, that's your job. You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 55 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Also "They took my card". That is apparently an American thing.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

In Canada, they have the wireless chip readers everywhere. It was nice since a large chunk of stolen credit cards are when employees scan it before charging it.

Some places in the USA is starting to do the same thing. But yes, the US is way behind.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hell we still sign a receipt an we only just got them chips recently

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Do you guys still do the hilarious chip & sign thing or have you finally switched to using a PIN?

Yes, the former. This country mannnn

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

You think that's hilarious? There are a lot of places in the world that still do a manual shhk-shhk of a card only a few years ago. Now that most cards don't have raised digits, they'll write it down. If they even take a card.

Places where the Internet goes down if it rains and there is no mobile service. Imagine the horror.

The other side of the coin - paying with debit (which has a pin) is stupid in the US. Unless you can't control your spending, credit card is the way to go for every legal purchase you don't mind being tied to you forever. CCs have far superior consumer protection than the law.

[–] Dalvoron@lemm.ee 12 points 9 hours ago

You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out

Also they would only have to do it once per item, shoppers have to do it every time!

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Thia is where you should name and praise the restaurant

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Sugarfish. They have to two in NYC. I've been to both.

[–] PM_ME_CUTE_ASLANS@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 12 hours ago

All hail Kermit, the Japanese restaurant

[–] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Waiters are against it as they may get way more than if they were paid by the owner. Also they automatically get raises when menu prices increases.

What blows my mind is that American do tip everywhere and also give cash to some workers at the end of the year (mail man, garbage man,.. Etc).

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Waiters are against it as they get way more than if they were paid by the owner.

They're not against it, and they don't.

Source: was waiter for a decade

[–] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you are paid $15/h that is 20% of $75. Don't you think that the clients you will serve will pay way more than that during an hour?

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago)

See, I don't need to think hypothetically. I lived it. This "you'll akshually make more money this way" is the shit owners spout so they don't have to pay you. Self-serving prop to feed those who don't know better, simply and completely untrue.

I used to love looking at my negative dollar paychecks showing my paltry 2.13 didn't even cover the fuggen taxes on my tips while the manager espoused that falsehood in the mandatory monthly meetings

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You must have been paid very well as a waiter to do better than tips.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If youre interested, id be happy to detail the realtities of waiting tables. Here's a big one non-waiters don't always know: all your tips are claimed these days. Your gross tips are taxed, after which your tips are split (either required tip-out % or full tip pooling) between the other staff.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

I have never worked a full service restaurant but I was at a huge pizza chain for 8 years, 6 as general manager. We only had the drivers report credit card tips and cash was left alone. They also didn't tip out the kitchen. What has changed to make cash tips reported? Couldn't you just lie about the amount?

When I moved cities I got a delivery job with a different company. It was fantastic. So much less volume, less stress, and the other drivers wanted to just chill and smoke weed so I would take most of the orders. A few times I broke $300 in tips on a 12+ hour shift if someone called off. Good money if you have a reliable car and put money back for when it inevitably needs repairs.

[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

There is a korean place I love in a city in a neighboring state. Worth driving over an hour to get that sweet sweet meal with tax and tip included in the menu price

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They took my card and they returned it

Welcome to 2000 ? I cant remember the last time i carried a card, wtf.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I have 1 credit card on my phone. I carry 1 debit card, my driver's license, and about 4 other credit cards with me.

I really don't like the idea of losing my phone and my only way of paying for things at the same time. At least if I lose my phone, I can still pay for stuff. If I lose my wallet, I can still use my phone to pay for stuff or to call.

I have a physical copy of my car insurance and I also have it on my phone.