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For the uninitiated, who's Mark Rober?
LDS former NASA engineer that makes silly devices and gadgets. Some interesting videos, though he's big into the clickbait game. Seems at least relatively sincere in his push for encouraging interest in STEM with children, though he can be a bit "flash over substance" for my tastes. But he is better then a lot of others I've seen in that regard.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Smarter Every Day did a video on using clickbait titles and thumbnails. The data is clear: everyone complains about it, but it performs far better than anything else on YT. And if the goal is to most efficiently spread educational videos to the largest number of people, then unfortunately, it's really the only option.
TBH, the tone isn't that different from Bill Nye. Wacky colors, loud obnoxious personality, gotta get kids excited about science somehow.
SED also uses the clickbait tactics, so I wouldn't exactly consider them an ubiased source. They're also all profiting from these tactics. Let's not pretend it's just some virtuous sacrifice to "teach the kids".
Correct. But at least we all can agree that the OG pillars of sciTube (and adjacent content) who keep it fresh with their unique forever updating style are the less guilty of those tactics: 3blue1brown, Vsauce, CGP Grey, Steve Mould, Matt Parker, Numberphile & 3 or 4 more that escape the tip of my tongue. They all do this for a living, but only one created a loot box and all profits go to research.
Veritasium has gotten really bad on that front. It used to be really educational, but now it's a lot of bullshit stuff that doesn't matter that he's doing for the clicks. I've mostly stopped watching that channel now.
I still watch him, but for this reason I did not include him on the list.
Thankfully, he does seem to be interested in education as well as earning money recording himself doing ridiculous things.
While it is not my cup of tea, my youngest loves it and has brought up engineering and physics concepts from it in appropriate situations, so I am not complaining.
That's great. I'm glad to hear it is having at least some positive impact despite my reservations.
Yah. I, too, have had reservations, as it looks like every other Mr. beast type youtuber. But, I think we have to come to grips with the fact that it is driven by capitalism and YouTube’s algorithm.
I think it was Linus Tech Tips that had a video explicitly explaining the A-B methods that are used to serve a thumbnail and how the annoying youtuber face ones tended to get more traffic and more new viewers.
DeArrow replaces clickbait thumbnails and title with croudsourced title and frame of the video
Yeah, unfortunately I never use yt from a browser, and grayjay doesn't have dearrow support afaik.
In the rock paper scissor robot video he went full mr beast. Good channel going down drain.
I agree! I liked his videos, but lately, I can’t watch his videos anymore…
Got too big and went from showing the process of building interesting things to showing off things other people built.
Yea, was a huge fan back in the glitter bomb days, but now his videos are.. boring. He needs to go back to his maker/engineer roots, IMO. On-the-bench projects.
Seriously. I used to like his stuff but lately it's just way over-produced crap.
LDS?
Latter day saint, i.e mormon.
Latter Day Saints
Yeah, his audience is somewhere around the 10-16 demo I imagine. Needs something engaging or they'll move on. I imagine the idea is if he can get them a bit interested young that they might pursue stem, and then do the actual substance there.
A former NASA engineer that started a youtube channel where he showcases the tech projects he works on. You may know him from the Glitter Bomb series where he humiliated a lot of porch pirates.