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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

"Journalists flock to yet another proprietary, commercial platform as the last becomes increasingly 'toxic' for reasons unknown."

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Oh shut up with that.

You act like there's some kind of alternative which there isn't. Mastodon, which I'm sure you were going to mention, absolutely does not count because it's a nightmare to use and they haven't bothered to fix any of its problems.

So there is no viable alternative.

Also because it's so awful to use, no one does use it, and so no one's on the platform. After all, journalists need to go where the viewers are.

There is zero point being smug about your open source platform, if no one uses your open source platform.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

News outlets should be spinning up their own federated social media instances, so that THEY control their own platform, akin to a website, or email addresses.

That solves all of their issues with it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

this solves all of their issues.

No it doesn't. No software is perfect.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of these journalists have a website they can post on already. Their companies site.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

How are you on the internet and yet unaware of the concept of advertising?

No one is publishing articles on social media, they are linking to articles, that are on their website, as a form of advertising.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay then, hope people won't complain when things go to shit again

Just forever on march towards the inevitable due to convenience

[–] B312@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You do realise people would’ve switched to mastodon if it weren’t so inconvenient? People don’t care about the long term projections of Bluesky. They want Muskless Twitter and they got Muskless Twitter. Simple as that

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm just really tired of telling people about the obvious, and every time history keeps repeating

I don't believe it's just convenience, it's as you said, people don't care about the long term. In anything.

A big corporate platform (or whatever else, like, say, oil companies vs climate protesters) will always have more resources, whether it's for development or marketing, so people will always have to be a bit willing to not have full convenience for a better world

If we don't think about the long term, what are we even thinking of instead?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm just really tired of telling people about the obvious, and every time history keeps repeating

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I can tell you have a sample size of one. Twitter.

Twitter went bad, that's hardly indicative of a trend

Social media rises and falls just like any other fad or fashion. It's a never-ending churn, as people (particularly, young people) inevitably crave something novel. There's little use in fighting the cycle, just as there'd be little use in fighting the trendy choices of a teenager.

It's frustrating to watch people en masse continue to make choices that don't make sense. It turns out that a lot of people are much more driven to follow the crowd than to have (let alone stand by) personal principles or rational decisions. Thankfully, we're not obligated to be like that. There's always some sort of counter-culture that bucks the main trends, and honestly? That's where the most interesting people tend to be.

If you feel driven to educate people on the futility of trends, then by all means, go for it. I just know it can be draining, and not everyone is going to be receptive. On the plus side, you sound like a rational person who actually thinks about their decisions - in a world full of followers, that can be pretty powerful.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No elon... literally all that matters

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 19 hours ago

Until he also buys Bluesky.

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, what’s the alternative? Mastodon culturally could not get its shit together enough to be a viable alternative.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Shit, they can do a lemmy or kbin instance, it would fit their format anyways. Post link from their domain, and it gets shared across the network.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Ten years later

"Journalists flock from Bluesky...

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Flock to wherever the critical mass of the herd is moving, in this case the very guy that caused their troubles in the first place.

Those are the very people supposed that are supposed to inform us and warn us of upcoming threat as well as mobilize the general population to defend against them.

But again they lead the population to the slaugtherhouse.

The death of journalism in the beginning of the 00s is certainly the first thread unravelling our civilizations in favour of the hype con-mens and their billionaires backers and other monarchs trying to swallow humanity whole.

All this effort, yet we don't even resist...

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 day ago

Wait what happened here? Did the GPT understand what the hooman did not? R O F L