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[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Not sure why this is getting down votes. Price is the key factor most parents look at, and most people who aren't into technology probably don't know what the steam deck is or know what "gaming on Linux" means. That is what is stopping a good friend of mine. Price is a huge factor, but the intimidation from lack of knowledge is just as big

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because it's a false narrative, entry level steamdeck can be had for $399.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can one for under $300 if you buy refurbished.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not an argument, you can also buy refurbished switch for 150 - 200

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure. Can you play Baldur's Gate 3 on it?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No but what's the dumbass comparison lmao

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Then why get either when you can get an used psp for like 20 bucks?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Because there are no games made for the PSP anymore.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How so? Is the price the only thing you think about when making a purchase?

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

If we compare the prices of two devices, we compare the prices of two devices, not the original factory price and a refurbished price.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's getting down voted because it's not $600 it's $400. Which is exactly how much the switch costed at launch. Well not exactly. The switch cost money to play online. So it's actually cheaper

[–] Tristus@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Additionally you can get the games much cheaper. Steam games are normally much cheaper than the Nintendo closed store. You also have Hero launcher which allows you Epic And Gog games. Epic gifts every week a new game. That alone is more than most switch players will own.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

excellent point and not trying to be pedantic, just pointing this out because i used to make the same mistake, the past tense of cost is cost.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck I'm usually good with grammar

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

not your fault English is a mess of stolen arbitrary rules.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most people who aren’t into technology probably don’t know what the steam deck is

Idk about that. Steam is a wildly popular platform and regularly markets the SteamDeck to its user base.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

and regularly markets the SteamDeck to it's user base.

Exactly my point. If you aren't using steam, you probably won't see marketing for it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Plenty of people do or use a lot of things that more people don't. My point was that not everyone knows what a SteamDeck is. You rebutted by saying people on steam know what it is. Do you not see how terrible of an argument that is? You were basically conceding, but you worded it like you weren't trying to make my point, even though you did.

Yes, people on steam know about the SteamDeck, the majority of the US and world population, do NOT know what steam is. Therefore, by your own logic, most people don't know about the SteamDeck.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

And plenty more people don't.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If it wasn't for the fact that a lot of people here have a good sized Steam library, I doubt they'd have a Steam Deck either.

It's more a "bonus way to play about half your PC games on the toilet" than it is a primary gaming platform.

[–] Tristus@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

That is not true. Steam games are normally much cheaper, you can also get tons of free games over Steam or Epic. Biggest issue with Steam Deck is the size. It is adult sized even my wife is not comfortable with it and it is too big for children. You would need to use it in combination with a controller.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, you're not giving the steam deck nearly enough credit. It fills a very similar niche to the switch - a viable mobile gaming option that can also be readily used for couch gaming. You don't need a large steam library to get use out of that, just like how the average switch owner probably only has a few switch games.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

You could. But realistically how many have?

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've tripled my library since getting a deck and use it more often than my PC.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

AAAAAH. WAAAT. NO. DON'T PLAY ON THE TOILET. COME ON, GUYS.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not sure why this is getting down votes

Because Lemmings are completely disconnected from the real world.

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel on every single social media platform I have ever been on I will see the comment

[This social media platform's users] are completely disconnected from the real world.

I never know how seriously to take this. I always want to automatically dismiss it because it seems like a "everyone here is delusional" type of comment and if I have had a majority of pleasant, reasonable-seeming interactions there I will really not like the idea that these seemingly nice people who had a civil, reasonable discussion with me are actually delusional, and by extension I probably am delusional too. And since I have seen it everywhere it basically seems to say nowhere online has (a decent amount of) people in touch with reality. But setting that aside for a moment…

Obviously every platform will attract different types of people, probably not a fully representative sample of the population, a skew towards this or that type of person… but how far skewed from the "normal" experience is each platform on average? What is normal? If one platform has a wild skew towards one type of person, but that type of person makes up most of what I'll see in real life due to my environment (like who my friends and family are, what my workplace is like), does its distance from normal matter if it's no different from my real life normal? How much? Given that a lot of people spend a lot of time online, in which they often express opinions they truly hold that they would not vocalize in real life, would you say people who eschew social media have their own disconnect from reality in some way? What social media platform is closest to the average real life normal, which is the least "disconnected from the real world"?

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Let's preface by making clear that when I say Lemmings are disconnected from reality, I don't mean they're delusional. I mean they're so immersed in their unix-like free-as-in-freedom open-source technobubble that they've forgotten what regular people want.

As for the rest of your comment, yes, every social media will attract its own niche of people but not every platform is equally as disconnected from the real world. For example, nobody in Fragrantica (perfume social media) would recommend a regular person to buy a perfume that smells like cocaine and magazines, even though its one of the most popular fragrances among people who like perfumes. Meanwhile, on Lemmy, people love to pretend the SteamDeck is an actual alternative to the Switch.

Obligatory xkcd.

Obligatory xkcd

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Thanks for clarifying. I do my best to compensate for any of my differences from what the average person wants, but it's a bit hard if you and your environment also skews in that direction.

At least with tech I feel I've got a somewhat decent handle on "normal," at least for my age group, which is not "grandparent struggling to turn on the computer". I probably skew a little more crazy compared to average, I did switch my computer's OS to Linux, but way less than people on this instance. Although I have no comment on the Switch/Steam Deck thing, I have zero desire to participate in console gaming and none of my friends are passionate enough about consoles to leak any information over to me. I've seen Switches around and have no idea what a Deck looks like, which might be telling, but it is also possible some of my friends have Decks and I just dismissed it as "some object".

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree. Stupid lemmings not understanding that 400 usd switch 2, plus 70 dollar switch games that nintendo says you are allowed to play, plus paying for internet again is way cheaper than 400 usd steam deck that will get you around 20 or so games for the price of a single nintendo game off humble bundle.

Wait, that can't be right...

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Every comment you guys make just cements how disconnected from reality you really are. There's also cheap games for the Switch.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it's just straight up misinformation, or at least a disingenuous oversimplification.

The base model steam deck is $400 (and you can get steam-certified refurbished ones for even cheaper), and we don't know the price of the Switch 2 yet. If it comes with even some of the hardware upgrades that have been leaked, I very much doubt it'll retail for as low as $350.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The base SteamDeck doesn't have an OLED screen and is still more expensive than the Switch OLED. As for the price of the Switch 2, it's a well-known and documented practice that console manufacturers sell them at a loss and make back the profits in games. If anything, you're the one spewing misinformation.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The base steam deck blows the OLED switch out of the water specs-wise on everything other than the screen. Nothing I've said is untrue, the relevant top comment is pure speculation at best.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

What does the oled matter? I have both and it is not a big deal. Id rather have lcd deck than OLED switch with free access to every nintendo game.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're insufferable. You're wrong about be price thing, just fucking admit it.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Did you respond to the wrong comment

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

blablabla specs-wise

See? This is what I mean by disconnected from the real world. Next you're gonna tell me how open source allows you to unlock the full potential of the Steamdeck's hardware.

Nothing I've said is untrue, the relevant top comment is pure speculation at best.

Brother, you literally said the Switch 2 is not gonna be around 350 USD. You have exactly as much evidence of that as the relevant top comment has that it will be. The difference is that only your comment was serious.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Dawg you gotta be a troll if you think I'm "disconnected from the real world" just because I know that better specs is why the steam deck can handle modern games and the switch can't. Also I said that we don't know what the switch 2 will cost, and that I'd be surprised if it was that low. Don't put words in my mouth.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, you're disconnected from the real world because you don't understand the average user doesn't care about specs they can't see. You walking back your words now doesn't mean you didn't say them. Nobody is putting anything in your mouth.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

K agree to disagree