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Other differentiated opinions wanted:

A friend showed me this and treats it like a prophecy. I'm rather skeptical. To me seems like somebody tries to fuel the AI hype with this text or is completely drunk with AI. It also fuels the China-US who-is-better-fight and the authors thoughts seem to circle too much around the US president, IMO.

But I don't understand much of this machine-learning stuff. So maybe it's me being ignorant. Still, to me reads like science fiction. How about you?

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it is plausible that, stumbles aside, AI achieves superintelligence in the very near future.

No, it absolutely isn't. AI hasn't even hit the slightest sign of actual intelligence so far so there is no reason to assume that it will get super-intelligent any time soon without some major revolutionary break-through (those are by definition unpredictable and can not be extrapolated from prior developments).

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Exactly.

This is like the Pareto principle (80% of the benefit for 20% of the work), except the end state isn't "general intelligence," it's a chat bot. There's no general intelligence at the end of this road, we'll need a lot more innovation to get there.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I respect what you are saying, and agree our LLM are just superficial pseudo communication engines. Theories of intelligence differ, but I don't think human intelligence, i.e. IQ of 100 is really all that far ahead of LLM. Just talk to your average person. We are easily wrong. We have bias and error. We repeat and amplify untruths and make mistakes.

It could be fewer breakthoughs than you think to get there. Not because the tech is so advanced, but because we are not that special.

Super-intelligence is just degrees better.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am not talking about degrees of intelligence at all. Measuring LLMs in IQ makes no sense because they literally have no model of the world, all they do is reproduce language by statistically analyzing how those same words appeared in the input data. That is the reason for all those inconsistencies in their output, they literally have no understanding at all of what they are saying.

An LLM e.g. can't tell that it is inconsistent to talk about someone losing their right arm in one paragraph and then talking about them performing an activity that requires both hands in the next.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had a lot of fun talking to one about how we could fully electrify a hobby farm without batteries, by using a high voltage DC overhead wire on a cable pulley system. Everything from electrical engineering, to cable selection, sourcing vendors and costs.

Mistakes were made, but it was genuinely helpful at times. I was impressed at how far it has come.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I too tend to use it as a souped up search engine, with mixed results. I was trying to get OBS to only record my game and not my music, and the bot came up with a whole routine involving setting up a virtual mixer, which I could not get to work correctly, and with which the bot was unable to help me, even with screenshots, - it would just keep suggesting the same thing that wasn't working - AND it was a pain to revert all the changes.

I tried to do the same thing again recently, but just via a google search, and almost immediately found a reddit post with a link to an OBS plugin that worked with a couple of menu selections. :)