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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I do have the feel that gaming piracy is on a all time low. At the moment there isn't even a single active denuvo cracker while there used to be like 3-4. Probably because stores like steam and gog, which are consumer friendly with fair prices for most products and not linked with stupid subscriptions.

On the other hand movie and shows piracy is rising for the anti-consumer platforms, who can pay $200 a month for seeing all decent shows and movies without ads? Very few people, and even then you own nothing.

I have a feel that music piracy will rise soon too. As Spotify already have started the anti consumer route. I'm pretty sure in a few years it's subscription won't be as worth it as it used to be, and a lot of people will find out that they have been paying for years and still own nothing.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Music piracy, while still a thing, is basically nil at this point, because the record industry didn't fuck up streaming (for the consumer). The artists don't get paid enough, but from a consumer perspective you don't have to sub to all the services to get all of the music.

We were so close to that with Netflix back in the beginning. Then the studios got greedy, and here we are.

[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I found the easiest way to pirate music was to just grab stuff from youtube. Maybe in the future Freetube will have an option to download whole playlists, but in my middle age I am way less likely to download the whole album for "context."

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

YouTube (via yt-dlp) is my fallback for if I can't find what I need on Soulseek.

The quality is fine, but I likes my FLACs.

[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

DLP is pretty good and has a lot of non youtube utility. For those at home, I like Stacher7 for interfacing with yt.dlp without using a command line.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Music piracy's still alive here and there. The torrents I usually find are massive FLAC files that have very little advantage over much smaller MP3s though. I might need to buy some really fancy gear to appreciate it maybe.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Music piracy basically amounts to not using sponsored AI playlists
Listening to the music you like instead of the music you are told to like
that's what music piracy has become today !

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah, music piracy is kinda niche these days: mostly just people who want a local library and who have a modded iPod or similar. I use Soulseek to get flacs of the music I play on my radio show, just so I can be sure I'm offering the best possible quality.

But to be honest, I straddle both camps. I have a modded iPod full of music, but I also have Apple Music mostly for convenience.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The second that valve goes public and gets horribly enshittified , it will grow exponentially.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have codex steamdrm crack at good custody for saving my library when it happens.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

That is if you have your library downloaded already

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is that something that universally works on all Steam games? If so, is this something one can find on public torrent trackers?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

I don't know if universally but I think all that use basic steam drm.

I found in cs.rin.ru. There is even a post explaining how it works.

If you ever downloaded a game with a basic steam crack you already have it. The files are the same for all games.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 12 points 4 days ago (4 children)

How exactly is Steam consumer friendly? Or is the bar so low that companies that don't shoot themselves in their feet by mistake because they were actually aiming for the customer are considered "consumer friendly"?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago

The bar is, indeed, very low. By comparison I don't feel as predated as in other shops.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

gog is more consumer friendly but steam is pretty good too compared to the alternatives.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

GOG doesn't do regional pricing and only supports a handful of currencies. So Steam is much more consumer friendly for any of us living in countries with "weak" currencies.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fact that you can add any game to Steam is pretty consumer-friendly, I think.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't even need to be a game

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

True, "add any software." It's just most beneficial for games.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fair enough... I guess I was thinking emulators

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Oh, I see. I consider those games as well, since you're not going to install one without any games included. It's also possible to make a shortcut so a single game boots up in an emulator.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought that crazy terf was cracking denuvo games?

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Empress? She retired two years ago from cracking, and started a cult.

And good riddance to them. The TERF rants emboldening bigots to go on further rants were getting pretty old.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Lol, what a fucking loser.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

i swear fitgirl can crack denuvo

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I do have the feel that gaming piracy is on a all time low. At the moment there isn't even a single active denuvo cracker while there used to be like 3-4. Probably because stores like steam and gog, which are consumer friendly with fair prices for most products and not linked with stupid subscriptions.

I don't know the numbers so I can't comment on that, but you do realise the vast majority of games don't launch with Denuvo right? And plenty of games that do only have it for the first 6-12 months because it's a subscription for them, before taking it out...

I've played Baldur's Gate 3 and Avowed recently, pirated, right at launch, because they didn't have DRM. Isn't it still true that nothing on GOG has DRM at all?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And plenty of games that do only have it for the first 6-12 months because it’s a subscription for them, before taking it out…

Sega, Ubisoft, and Atlus being notable exceptions. They just leave that shit in forever.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they can afford then yeah I guess. I just don't play those games, and we should all endeavour to boycott such anti-consumer DRM. It reminds me of the Sony Music rootkit controversy.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Baldur's Gate 3 deserved your money, but pirating Avowed was a good choice. I did as well and don't regret it.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're right, it absolutely did, that's why I bought it 12 months after it came out and replayed it finally just recently. To me pirating games is just an extended demo, and if I like them a lot I buy them.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Same, I pirated BG3 on PC and then bought it on PS5 after.

[–] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There's a workaround for Denuvo: buying a copy of the game with pooled funds and sharing the game with all the participants using online activation. It's not exactly cracking, but it is one way around it. The issue is knowing where to find such groups, or starting one yourself. I can get you into one, If anyone is interested. Just send me a PM asking to join.

You can get older stuff for free as well. Practically everything is free, but you'll have to wait longer with the newer titles because people who donated funds take priority.

Note: Unfortunately, this takes place in a Discord group. You'll have to use Discord and you'll have to have an account that is at least one-month old to be able to participate.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Or just buy on GOG and don't buy Denuvo games.

[–] CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 days ago

Sure, that's always an option. But we're not talking about buying here. To be precise, yes, a copy of the game is still being bought, but then it gets distributed among 100s of people. It's pretty much like old-school piracy: VHS tapes and burning copies of games you own onto CDs.

That being said, you aren't missing that much if you're completely avoiding Denuvo games. Out of all the uncracked ones that I've tried using this method, only two games out of the last decade or so were worth the trouble (Wukong and Hi-Fi Rush).

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 4 days ago

True, if there's a game I really, really want I buy on Steam/Epic. Found out there are very few games I really want to play that much, can think of only 2 I bought like that.