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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 201 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 150 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

OR stop buying ANY of their products

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 115 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, both, really.

Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter

But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

I, for one, have never used any of their shit.

Don't project.

[–] Triton420@mander.xyz 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct.

One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

I am already balls deep, chief.

Helping family and friends while shilling it online.

We got min 5 years best case scenario still

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you’ve used Android, they did the same thing and removed ICE-spotting apps.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What do you use?

I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it.

Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me.

I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products.

Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Still gives money to Google though.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware.

While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet.

[–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 3 weeks ago

At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren't willing to meet the moment

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don't tell them their actions are irredeemable and they've lost you for life.

If you tell them you'll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You're essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don't mind them bending the knee.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 26 points 3 weeks ago (34 children)

How much "feedback" do you think it will take to make them contradict the vindictive sitting President? Apple doesn't care about what you think about this because it's not for you.

You know what you can do? Stop giving them money. Write them an email from your iCloud account, then delete said account. Cancel any subscriptions (this seemed to be effective against Disney).

The fed gov holds too much power. You have to show them that Americans, collectively, have more power to affect their bottom line than the Pres, and (most importantly) are willing to exercise it.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They're based in the USA, they have to work with the government or they'll be targeted/taken over/shut down, surely?

They could try to escape the USA and move all their operations to Europe, but I think they're just going to stick where they are and do whatever the fascists want them to do. So long as they're getting paid why should they care?

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 11 points 3 weeks ago

They had no problem standing up to the FBI when they knew the Constitution still worked. It's not bravery when it doesn't cost you anything and there's nothing to be afraid of. But now things are different and regular every day people don't want to say it out. The implications make them uncomfortable.

Apple's market share outside of the US is pretty pitiful. Even with their piles of money, it would hurt.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It would be better for the economy to commit suicide than to comply, and we as consumers have the power to make them if only we organized

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

A strongly worded letter

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