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[–] sus@programming.dev 14 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So I wondered a bit how much it actually affects the economy.

"S&P 500" companies' market cap is about 57 trillion dollars with a P/E ratio of about 30. So openai by itself is dragging down the total s&p 500 earnings by only about 0.5%. The bigger problem is that there are multiple companies like openAI, and a large chunk of the entire economy's valuation is tied to the promise that all the AI companies will somehow become profitable sometime soon.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 15 points 2 days ago

According to this article written in July, it's a bit more dire than that if you take a step or two back. Basically, openai and their copycats/derivatives are being held up by investments from Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Meta, who in turn are being held up by investments from Nvidia. If/when the whole chain collapses it'll be more than 0.5% of earnings that disappear.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

When you put it that way, I'm actually kind of mad. Most of my retirement is in index funds, so essentially OpenAI just pissed away half a percent of my life savings in the last quarter!

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

If OpenAI goes down then it will start a domino effect as people lose confidence in AI and AI companies. That's how the bubble pops.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So it ALL depends on the definition of "soon"?

[–] sus@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago