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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 81 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

This is what happens when they know you won't leave.

"But muh games...and Linux is too difficult and weird"

I say to those: well then you've made your choice, didn't you? It's going to keep happening, like it's been since the 90s.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why is the target of your comment towards people that use Windows?

I am not sure why People on Lemmy feel like if they point something out to people who can't see the comment is going to get them to change their mind.

I have and use both Linux and Windows. I prefer both for different reasons.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I know I'm talking into the void. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm too tired of trying to do that. Just trying to get people to realize they made the choices they have to live with.

[–] AlexanderESmith@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I may be spoiled in that I don't play AAA multiplayer games, but I do play AAA single player and indie single/multiplayer (usually the type where one of the players is also the server, e.g. Terraria).

Been running Linux on my systems for more than a decade, and - especially since Proton/SteamDeck enchantments made their way upstream - I haven't had any major ssues (except having to wait a while to play RDR2-PC in Ubuntu because of a weird game-specific graphics card driver issue, but even that was fixed in due course).

Fuck Windows, and fuck the assertion that it's the only way to run games.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Proton really did marvelous shit.

Made it so easy that even an idiot (like me) could get games running on linux without much headache. Especially nowadays, even big game titles working almost flawlessly on release day.

Again it might be that I pretty much don't play competitive online games because if there's anything that ruins gaming it's random strangers, but I have had practically no problem playing games over the last ten years.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What about people who needs NURBS tools and Affinity/Adobe class art softwares? Where do they go that corporations decided Windows and Mac are only to be supported? And believe me, plenty of them hates Windoze and I'm one of them.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dual boot if you're up for it.

[–] foo@programming.dev 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dual booting kinda sucks. It fragments your workflow and it is pretty disruptive compared to just being able to move to whatever you need to move to.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] foo@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's better but assuming they have a system that can run windows in a VM at native resolution it's still a broken workflow that won't attract people to Linux.

Look Linux is my daily driver, my entire lab is Linux. We use a combination of Debian, fedora, and rhel. I'm not opposed to using other distros. It's okay for working with my peers who are on windows but not the best. Easy enough to work around.

However if an important part of your workflow requires Windows, Adobe, Autodesk, the murky shit of office products, etc., then arguing for dual booting, using a VM , or a different computer isn't going to win people to Linux. It makes proponents seem silly

[–] Moorshou@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why does it have to be one tool though? More of a complaint to business in that they don't let you use other tools.

[–] foo@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

Sure and that sucks but that's reality

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Those will not run under/with emulation?

[–] foo@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Autodesk seems to be inconsistent with emulation. I can make fusion 360 run but not other tools.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

My issue is more Rhino and Solidworks. If Blender actually can render NURBS and retesselate from NURBS to polygon, I can pretty much ditch Autodesk Maya as that's the only reason I use Autodesk Maya.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

Solidworks/Rhino probably can work under VM, but I don't know.

[–] oo1@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Develop own software or support indepndent sw development however you can.

If you really need something, think about your personal dependencies and try to build some resilience / backups , one way or another.
Whatever your craft, a pathway towards ownership and control of tools and maintenance should be a traditional part of mastering the craft.
So that you can eventually do things like extend the toolset, or adapt tools to niche circumstances and advance things along.

If you don't have that pathway, then you might end up trapped as an apprentice or journeyperson and will continue to be exploited by those who control the things you depend on.
If there's no freedom and no way to develop competition in the supply chain, then you probably would benefit from - collective organisations such as trades-guilds, or professional associations or trade-unions to counter the power imbalance, and represent your needs - but they can also get captured/bribed so those probably need a bit of effective democracy / transparency/accountability or something. I'm not going to suggest govt regulation, becasuse that's super easy to capture and national-election democracy is a weak control, but you might get some progressive govts like some European ones that'd think about doing something suppoting foss projects, maybe.

It might not be easy, but you have to look for and support those types of features for the good of your industry.
Corps will eat their industry for a quick $, it's the workers, tradespeople and masters of the craft and some small businesses who care about the long term. And maybe any enlightened customers if you're lucky enough to have them.

As an example, for physical 3d cad, personally I don't like freecad much it's complex and not very intuitive; but it lets me do all the maths I want in python, with my own made up data structures / object model. So i'll use and support freecad 100% over all the other more user friendly CAD that i've seen - it really is the freedom, and not being so dependant.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Yep,dual boot.