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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 31 points 6 months ago (10 children)

This ban can't come soon enough. Fuck the CCP.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"In my household, the only addictive spyware we use is made in the USA!!!"

Edit: everyone below me is proving my point exactly.

[–] ealoe@ani.social 8 points 6 months ago

Unironically yes, at least the US government is something we can openly criticize and attempt to change while living within its borders. Try criticizing the Chinese government from within China, let me know how that works out for you. I'll take homegrown American spyware any day.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

People love to repeat this, but US companies aren't coming from a place of hostile intent like china's special brand of tik tok for the states.

[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not so sure about that, they seem pretty hostile to consumers and employees.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They're both focused on profit. The only reason you see the other one as scary is because it's owned by the scary scary Chinese. Red scare all over again.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (6 children)

No tiktok is not focused on profit. It literally has one of the worst/non existent monetization systems.

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[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Why is Chinese tiktok different than that in the states then?

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Hmm, here's what Zuckerberg said when he launched Facebook:

According to SAI sources, the following exchange is between a 19-year-old Mark Zuckerberg and a friend shortly after Mark launched The Facebook in his dorm room:

Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.

Brutal.

Could Mark have been completely joking? Sure. But the exchange does reveal that Facebook's aggressive attitude toward privacy may have begun early on.

They may not be trying to control elections (they certainly have their fingers in that pie too), but they're still hostile to users.

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 2 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Why would it matter whether or not it's intentional, if the end effect is the same?

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[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Blaming tiktok for bad parental choices?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's a good parental choice. But the ban can help the kids.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

I doubt it, parents will just move them to YouTube, Instagram, or some other platform. The TikTok ban is intended to limit misinformation by the CCP, and that doesn't really matter for this age of kids.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

No blaming the CCP on psyops on Americans.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that will solve the problem

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, is there another psyops software the CCP has deployed in the US?

[–] BlueJayOakerson@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Probably plenty. Tik tok is just the biggest owned by a foreign government that also is showing pretty immediate extreme negative effects on children’s attention spans and learning capabilities.

But people are still gonna whine because they’re 25 year olds who need to watch 80 videos of unboxing shoes in 4 minutes . That’s really the only pro tik tok argument there is.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It sets a pretty chilling precedent that non-American competition can be forced to sell to Americans for (insert arbitrary reason here).

I am in favor of TikTok at least becoming restricted to adults only if not outright banned, just warning about the consequences of doing it this way.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's owned by the CCP who is currently trying to undermine our election. It tried to do it in Taiwan where I currently live.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's owned by the CCP who is currently trying to undermine our election

Not that this may not be true, but the USA undermines it's own foundation of democracy

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While the US government is not perfect, it still is OUR own government. The CCP is a literal adversary.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So it's ok when Republicans undermine democracy... As long as they are not Chinese, got it

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Some of the republicans are already compromised by Putin. Certainly not ok.

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[–] jorp@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Only Western manipulation please!

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