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And What does that have to do with anything? We aren't dealing with China, we're dealing with a corporation.
The fact that the company that manages TikTok is insisting on maintaining the power structure that allows for influence by the CCP makes that claim incredibly suspicious.
Oh no, should we ban Facebook because the US government can subpoena them for information!?!
First, that's materially different. Second, yes; I think Facebook giving the government our information without a fight is bad. What, did you think I would suddenly think the dissolution of our privacy was good because it was an American company?
Oh that's different than when the Chinese government serves a subpoena?
We're not talking about subpoenas.
So we're talking about some other official demand for documents? Like an NSA warrant?
Oh no. Not a name! Not on the Internet! I am mortally wounded!! God forbid you examine why we don't have actual data privacy laws in the US. Nope nope nope, just wave that flag and stick your head in the ground.
According to former head engineer for US locations of TikTok, their services are centralized in China to the extent that it probably cannot even run off the US locations alone, and the Chinese owners ByteDance had complete access to everything on the platform including user data and if you believe security experts: your photo library, text message history, contacts list, and information of nearby wireless devices that you've so much as passed by. Also, they're a military partner in China.
That's not a US Corporation in any way, shape, or form. That is espionage. The fact that they announced they won't sell shows that they were never a business operating for profit, it was always about control.
I'm sure you can link these security experts. Since that would be classed as malware and the industry standard is to write public reports on that stuff.
And saying they aren't like a US corporation because they do some military contracting is fucking hilarious.
Would it be classified as malware? I think people hand over permissions on their smartphone for most or all of those things on a daily basis without a second thought.
The report on the vast extent of data obtained by TikTok was published by an Australian firm called "Internet 2.0" but it's pay to view. Seems pretty substantial, though, since it hasn't been debunked in the 2 years since it was published. It also scored the highest recorded score on Malcore, owned by Internet 2.0, with a 63.1.
Lmao. They're trying to sell a product. They admit on their blog that the reason their score is so high is the trackers. Which are all from other social media companies and an advertiser. Oh and they counted Google Crashlytics.
TIL I learned good app maintenance is considered a red flag.
If they cared about money they wouldn't be threatening to shut down rather than sell.
Internet 2.0 is threatening to shut down?
Ah my apologies I thought you meant TikTok when you said "They’re trying to sell a product." It's a pretty common defence and misdirection on these sort of posts.
If you don't trust Internet 2.0 is telling the truth, then how exactly have they evaded defamation lawsuits? Telling lies that negatively impact ByteDance's operations would be grounds for a lawsuit in all 3 of these countries.
Because launching a defamation suit is a PR disaster for them right now. Just look at you breathlessly repeating unproven accusations from years ago. They hardly need to blow up new ones.
Well one of those is required if they want to stay in business and the other one hasn't had much bearing on their US business. So I think it's pretty self explanatory.
It's not. Reports of you being a threat to national security seems to have a lot of bearing when lawmakers are banning you.
We were talking about what TikTok has to do with China, as you seemed to not know how, so you finding their direct obvious ties to China "fucking hilarious" is telling of your intentions.
No that's ByteDance's direct ties. TikTok would be indirect. My intention is to get to the bottom of this but it's constantly just unsourced accusations and conflations. Not to mention excuse after excuse for why we can't just pass an American GDPR. Instead we have to instigate Red Scare 2.0 which is totally not sus.
ByteDance is not just an indirect tie between TikTok and China, former employees have testified that the TikTok services are centralized in China. The offices in the USA operate like a shell company.
No they haven't. They said they sent head count and engagement data. That's it.
Yintao “Roger” Yu said that the CCP had full "supreme access" to all data. SOURCE
He left ByteDance 4 years before Project Texas. Even if that was happening then there's no evidence it's still happening. But also how is this any different than the US Government telling Facebook it has to share information?
Why would the operation that this company was created to carry out no longer be happening, pray tell?
That's a lot of assumption for no evidence. You might as well ask how TikTok deals with aliens in Area 51.
You choose to believe the people who built this system know nothing about how it actually works? That there is no evidence?