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Too bad ASML is not allowed to sell to China anymore and the Chinese are making their own machines :)
.ml don't shill for China challenge:
does it offend you when people have opinions different than yours?
Yes, it offends me that people are assholes.
All forms of bigotry are opinions, so yes; there are specific opinions that I get offended by when I see them.
in my experience people who accuse others of bigotry are often bigots themselves.
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.ml don't be a fascist challenge.
ASML’s machines are very advanced using a lot of specialized parts (who’s export is probably also banned) and taking a lot of skilled labour to make. China will probably be able to eventually get there, but it’s going to be a while.
Like a loooong fucking while. Or I mean they could just stick with what they got.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2024/05/14/smic-achieves-success-in-5nm-node-that-will-make-up-huawei-mate-70-processors-report/
Already happening.
Samsung started with 5nm in 2018, so that’s still 6 years behind.
I'm writing this message from a laptop with 10nm chip. It works fine. nanometers aren't everything. Most of the time they are just marketing.
Yea that is true, but in smaller form factors a 10 nm chip wouldn’t be sufficient anymore. They generally consume more energy or they are slower.
If consumers had the choice between the two chips they generally choose the smaller ones because of their inherent benefits.
You can do a lot with a working 5nm process. This will hurt Samsung and TSMC (and by extention Qualcomm and Intel) a lot. The market isn't just the most cutting edge stuff.