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During a recent episode of The Verge’s Decoder podcast, Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber shed some possible insight into the company’s view on one of its most important products. Saying that “the mouse built this house,” Faber shares the planning behind a Forever Mouse, a premium product that the company hopes will be the last you ever have to buy. There’s also a discussion about a subscription-based service and a deeper focus on AI.

For now, details on a Forever Mouse are thin, but you better believe there will be a catch. The Instant Pot was a product so good that customers rarely needed to buy another one. The company went bankrupt.

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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 241 points 3 months ago (5 children)

premium mouse that receives constant updates

Come on. How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

I've had an m570 for about 10 years. Every time it broke, I fixed it. Why do we need a subscription?

[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 225 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is not about you, but about them. It's not that you need a subscription. It's that they need you to have a subscription.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

[–] kubica@fedia.io 89 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you are going to ask questions maybe you are not the target demographic.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damned straight! I'll stick with my boring old non-ai grandpa mouse.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Back in my day the mice had a tail, no scroll wheel, and only 2 buttons!

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 14 points 3 months ago

Back in my day, mice had balls.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

We used trackballs and loved them. We greased the mechanism with our forehead sweat as was the fashion at the time.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

When I were a lad, we used vi.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

They'll remove any mice from the market that doesn't have a subscription model and others will follow suit.

Future mouse DLC: "Special promotion! $5 discount on unlocking right mouse button!"

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They’ll remove any mice from the market that doesn’t have a subscription model and others will follow suit.

Good luck with removing aliexpress mice from the market

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I doubt the open source options will be adopting this strategy either.

I have a ploopy trackball and love it.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does it compare to the m570?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I use a left handed one, so I can't really comment on most ergonomic computer accessories.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

They look nice, but quite expensive.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they only had a thumb trackball...

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Dang phone, not sure how I missed it. Thanks! Although oof on the price... Another poster mentioned elecom, they have a quite the variety of thumb trackballs, think I'll buy few of those for the price of one ploopy: https://elecomusa.com/collections/trackball Edit:spelling

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

True, they are expensive. But it's one of the very few left-handed, ergonomic mice/trackballs I've ever found.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Damn, I never thought to look there! Thanks!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not if they and their competitors remove all the other options.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah. There will always be companies just selling a mouse.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago
[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Are they bluetooth?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 35 points 3 months ago

How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

Almost none, why the hell would a mouse ever need firmware updates except to fix fuckups? It has one job, translate clicks and movements into signals for the computer.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used an HP dead stock "this ships with every computer we sell" optical mouse for twenty years before it broke.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

All my mice are similar ages, even my Logitech wireless.

I did just have a 15 year old one die, but it got used about 8 hours a day all that time.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So Logitech can bill every one of its customers every month.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

No sale.

Joke's on you; they're into that shit. Their techno-feudalist wet dream is to force you into rentals for everything.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This from a company who refused to update their drivers for a USB speaker system for 7, even though it was still actively being sold at stores.

I had bought it a few months earlier at a Fry's, on sale. I think the sku was just about 2 years old, just expiring on their support policy, as a new OS dropped.

Their customer support told to me kick sand.

Fuck Logitech. Their Mice are the only thing I've continued to use because they are actually reliable. But now they're trying to enshitify that behind a subscription, so that's it.