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[–] odium@programming.dev 110 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Damn, wtf are intuit and GM doing to their engineers?

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 102 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maybe they just forgot to brainwash them with anti-union propaganda

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 month ago

This is likely the case with GM given that their manufacturing is unionised. Engineers just got a demo what that can do for them last year. They aren't getting the raise assembly workers got.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Silicon valley is full of H1B visa holders who can't speak up politically or risk deportation.

[–] odium@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This makes a lot of sense. I can definitely see those companies at the bottom having way more H1B workers than the ones st the top.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

And a person with an H1B can only change to a job within a certain radius of their current job and if it's beyond that radius they need to report it to the govt.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

The only workers left at 𝕏itter are H1B ones just trying to survive.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Edit: cause some jackass is implying I'm a bot - I should have joined a union and a union would've protected me from the mass layoff in '23 but that doesn't change that while there I never thought about needing a union because it was such a nice place otherwise.

As someone who previously worked at Google - they didn't have any antiunion propaganda.

They just, like, paid well, had top tier benefits, great perks, and had a good work life balance.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 9 points 1 month ago

I am a human being, and I enjoyed my employment at Google

Meanwhile, at Google

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's the other option, of course: If your employees are happy, they don't need to form a union to press complaints.

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's my situation at a Silicon Valley tech company. Nobody ever mentioned unions one way or another but I honestly have no idea what I could ask for that I don't already get. We have good benefits, good perks, everyone works frok home, unlimited PTO that nobody tries to limit or work around (all we are asked for is to give a rough estimate of time we'll be taking off during each quarter so that it can be factored into planning), good work environment, good pay.

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

which also references an effort to use the media to quietly disseminate Google’s point of view about unionized tech workplaces.

Bogas’ order references an effort by Google executives, including corporate counsel Christina Latta, to “find a ‘respected voice to publish an op-ed outlining what a unionized tech workplace would look like,” and urging employees of Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, and Google not to unionize.

in an internal message Google human resources director Kara Silverstein told Latta that she liked the idea, “but that it should be done so that there ‘would be no fingerprints and not Google specific.’”

From the article posted by 100_kg_90_de_belin.

Google seemingly does care about their internal image, so they will only make their actions obvious when they fire you for bogus reasons after wanting to join a union.
Quite nasty in that they give you no hints about how extreme their efforts on this are. They monitor internal employee tools like they are cosplaying the NSA, but you wouldn't know before you are fired out of the blue.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Idk about intuit but GM is probably a result of their union coworkers getting awesome Bennie’s.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

The union autoworkers get good benefits like overtime pay for work over 8 hours. Union working come in at 6, then take a fixed breakfast and lunch break and then leave at 2:30. Anything over that will need approval and overtime pay. I’m surprised Ford and Stellantis isn’t alongside with GM.

[–] aeki@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago

Funny, seeing them at the top gave me a favorable impression of them, but seems to have caused the opposite for you. My impression was probably due to, like someone else said, feeling like maybe they're not being drilled with as much anti-union propaganda.

But I'm from a place where you have to go out of your way not to be part of a union.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

10% of people are insane so they even got significant chunks of the crazy vote for GM and Intuit