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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 196 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Why doesn't she just take her Harry potter money and remove herself from society on some private island or something? How damaged do you need to be to want to start fights with an already marginalised section of society? What a rubbish human being!

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 96 points 6 months ago (7 children)

This is something I'll never understand. If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd disappear in a puff of smoke. You wouldn't catch me dead making a Tweet about it, much less fighting people over random bullshit

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because when you have everything the money can buy, you become greedy for attention.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 150 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Here's a Neil Gaiman thing to balance things out

[–] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I was going to say that's actually a G K Chesterton quote, but it turns out it's more complicated than that. Neil Gaiman himself said it was from Chesterton (when quoting it at the start of Coraline), but he wrote it from memory and didn't double check, so the original is worded differently. At least, that's how my quick googling claims the paraphrase happened. The misquote is pithier than the original so... is it now a Gaiman quote, even though it originates as an attempted Chesterton quote?

As far as I can tell, the passage he was thinking of was:

Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon.

  • G K Chesterton, Tremendous Trifles (1909)
[–] classic@fedia.io 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Interestingly, on Gaiman and attribution, he came out with a graphic novel, The Books of Magic, with a main character very similar to Harry Potter. This was 7 years prior to Rowlings publishing the first book. His response to that similarity was equally charitable, chalking it to creators tapping into the same unconscious material. Dude seems to have integrity. I could see another person grousing at the parallels between the two.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Neil Gaiman was close friends with the legendary Terry Pratchett. There's no doubt he's a better human being than Joanne.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Wait, if Terry Pratchett is just a legend, who wrote all those Discworld novels??

[–] Username@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago

They probably just manifested in the library one day. That, or they are taken from L-space.

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[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This quote always goes hand in hand with that one for me.

Since it is so likely that (children) will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise you are making their destiny not brighter but darker.

C.S. Lewis

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

JK Rowling can be beaten.

And defeated as well if you want to do that.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

How can I use Lemmy in such a way that I see more Neil Gaiman than JK Rowling? Any tips?

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 147 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 98 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (35 children)

My ghetto-rasied white sister-in-law that loves Motown & has worn cornrows, would quite literally beat her into a pulp for saying something this stupid within her reach.

And yes mouthy bigots deserve their ass beat, but go ahead & show the rest of us how you are so "progressive" that you stand up for the absolute worse of humanity.

[–] Apollo42@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Seems like a perfectly rational response.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 97 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I hate how this woman still gets attention. Sigh.

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 95 points 6 months ago (3 children)

transphobia

look inside

racism

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Chait's response to Rowling's racist reply to him is exceptional.

[–] cabvagebeets@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

A completely normal way to respond to being asked to use folks pronouns...

"You say you use she/her pronouns, but what if I said some dumb racist shit? Check mate un-TERFs!"

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[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 63 points 6 months ago (7 children)

You can have black ancestry and appear not-black, so this really doesn't support her argument at all.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 50 points 6 months ago

She wouldn't understand a complexity like that.

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[–] Electric_Druid@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (3 children)

JK Rowling being deplorable aside, every time I see someone getting "s l a m m e d" in a headline I feel myself age a week.

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[–] EmptySlime@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 6 months ago

Yet another example of Joanne specifically, and reactionaries as a whole having only The One Joke™

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so damn frustrating.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago (5 children)

How she went from one of the most beloved authors of all time to this will never cease to amaze me.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

JK Rowling continues to lose it.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Just as a reminder: Bigoted trolling is a one-way ticket to Bansville.

That is all.

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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

She's so close to getting it, that gender is as much of a bullshit category as race is.
Frustrating to see someone understanding partially but not making the final leap to connect it.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

People like that understand exactly as much as they want to understand in order to further their ideological goal.

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[–] livus@kbin.social 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

...implying that she believes in Blood Quantum as well. Yikes.

Trans people, PoC... she was having a go at disabled people in her last book as well. I think maybe trolling has an addictive component and they have to reach further and further to get the same adrenaline hit.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Keep going, keep going. I wanna see how far you can go before people stop defending you. I wanna see how much you can get away with and where the line is. I wanna see how much bigotry society is willing to tolerate for the sake of Harry Potter. I want to watch you (metaphorically) hang yourself with your own rope. I want the chaos, I want the spectacle, and I want your followers to wake up and see you for who you really are, or else for you to drag them down with you.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (12 children)

Wow I thought she was perhaps subtle about her hatred, and that's why she isn't universally rejected yet, but apparently that's not the case:

Calling a man a man is not 'bullying' or 'punching down.' Crossdressing straight men are currently one of the most pandered-to demographics in existence, and women are under no obligation to applaud the people caricaturing us. — J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) May 12, 2024

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (36 children)

Honestly race is a social construct formed initially out of ethnicity in a very similar way to gender being a social construct formed initially out of sex. I don’t think most people would be offended by someone whose cultural behavior matched that of a race not normally associated with their ethnicity, as long as it was genuine and not done simply to appropriate another culture.

Like, if a white kid is raised around a lot of Jamaican immigrants, falls in love with reggae, and becomes a Canadian reggae sensation, we aren’t gonna say that he’s black (because he isn’t), but we also aren’t gonna say that Snow is appropriating Jamaican culture.

I guess it could be an interesting question for a more open future society, whether “trans-racial” identity could eventually be something we could identify and accept.

But of course TERFy bitch J.K. Rowling isn’t asking this question in good faith, she’s trying to be edgy and punch down, like she’s constantly doing these days. So, no J.K. Rowling. Fuck off.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Some famous people REALLY shouldn't have a Twitter account: Trump would have stayed a tacky real estate developer/reality TV host, Musk would have stayed a tech visionary, and Jo would have stayed a beloved children's book author.

Is there any way to like, disassociate being a Harry Potter fan to whatever embarrassing nonsense her X Formerly Known as Twitter accounting is spouting?

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[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What always amazes me about such things is how easy it is to just keep your mouth shut and not say anything and yet so often people just...don't.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Her degeneration into the type of Nazi she'd parody in her books is almost complete.

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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (11 children)

JK Rowling's opinion about slavery is that most slaves like it, they're better off in slavery, and it's just the natural order of things.

When she speaks, she speaks from a place of fear and ignorance.

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Quick someone SLAM JK Rowling for saying more idiotic nonsense. We need more celebrities SLAMMED as soon as possible. Some politicians too, keep on SLAMMING folks!

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[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Yo, JK, it's SO EASY to NOT say anything. Just stop saying things.

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[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Oh here's my monthly reminder that JK Rowling is nutjob.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

She continues to fall down the Nazi rabbit hole.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 24 points 6 months ago

The fact that she said this arguing with another transphobe who asked her to dial it back a little is hilarious

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So, lemme get this straight JK, I can't be a woman despite intense dysphoria that didn't go away until I pumped my body full of hormones and literally inverted the look and function of one of my major organs... But you can be black, because you watched Sanford & Son that one time?

Mmhmm, mmhmm.....

Are you fucking stupid?

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

OK. I hate to "defend" a terf but I don't think that's her point. JK doesn't want to be black. She doesn't think she should be allowed to change her race and she knows that most people agree with that. She thinks it's an uno reverse card to go "ha! so how come you're allowed to change your gender then?" as if race and gender are the exact same thing.

Anyways, congrats on your transition Queen.

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