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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 428 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Don't give the Foo Fighters a pass for doing corporate gigs for these assholes either. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

It's so disappointing.

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[–] paskalivichi@sh.itjust.works 294 points 5 months ago (19 children)

I'm disappointed in Dave grohl

[–] JesusSon@lemmy.world 151 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If those dirty fucking workers had just worked harder they could have a Foo Fighters concert too.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago

Best I can do is a YouTube video with ads for dick pills.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 143 points 5 months ago (12 children)

It is a musician's business to know who they are performing for and why - and the more famous they are, the more it starts to matter. Grohl knows this.

The people on here who is excusing this with "capitalism bad except when people I like is doing it" arguments is just demonstrating how empty "liberal values" get when push comes to shove.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That's actually their manager's business. Literally what they hire them for. And honestly, if you're going to fault them for performing a private venue for an Amazon event, you should also fault every artist that's ever performed in like, Vegas. Casinos have been bleeding people to death long before Amazon hit the scene.

I'm not going to fault a performer for literally doing their job and taking a fat payday. I'd probably do the same in their shoes, anybody who insists otherwise isn't being honest with themselves.

It's not like the rider said "play show at Amazon, these guys just laid a lot of people off and are screaming about budget cuts so they want you to play for the rest. Here's 4 million dollars."

It probably said "corporate event for 6-10k people. Here's a check for 4 million dollars"

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[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So we're just skipping the part about the execs treating themselves to a concert after many years of union busting, horrid working conditions, innumerable other abuses, and excluding the workers. But we're going to shit on the people they hired for a gig.

Coolcoolcoolcoolcool.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So we’re just skipping the part about the execs

No... we actually talk about Amazon's shitfuckery a lot. Where have you been?

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 136 points 5 months ago (17 children)

Fucking-A, Dave. At least Kurt never sold out.

[–] Mellow12@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Die a hero or live long enough to become a villain. Kurt punched his card before it could happen to him too.

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 131 points 5 months ago (27 children)

For those not upset and see the band "just playing a gig", what would be a line that you personally would consider too far? Would you be ok with them doing a private show for Netanyahu and his cabinet? Would a private show for Trump and his Republican lackeys be ok? How about Nestle CEO and its board, but none of its workers? Would a private show for the Proud Boys be ok if they had a "dump truck full of cash"?

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Look, I despise Amazon and Jeff bezos. I avoid Amazon and work hard to find products from retailers that aren't Amazon storefronts. But at some point, unless you're self-employed and completely self-sustaining, you're 1) whoring yourself out to somebody, and 2) sucking the knob of capitalism somewhere.

All we're left to argue is matter of degrees.

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[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 129 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The ruling class needs a very poignant reminder that their perceived value is entirely manufactured by the working class, on whose shoulders they stand. These people have no real value if the people they exploit are able exert their own agency.

Fuck these parasites. And as a matter of course, fuck the foo fighters.

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 86 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They should pour out a piss bottle for the warehouse employees who couldn't attend.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 70 points 5 months ago (5 children)

To think this is a problem with just Amazon is silly. This is every American corporation. The executives of every major corporation in this country treat themselves very very well on company dimes while their workers all languish in starvation wages. The only way to fight this is to raise the minimum wage to something that is livable for the average worker. The government needs to force these companies to behave. They will never and I mean abso-fucking-lutely never choose to treat their workers with respect and dignity by paying them a decent living wage.

And the politicians that are in all of their pockets will never ever go against their corporate masters. The only way to make them listen is to get every single American to acknowledge that this is something that is needed and then push their politicians to do it or threaten their jobs by voting for someone else. This goes for both Democrats and Republicans, not quite equally but there's definitely a few Democrats that need to be replaced.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago

Bentonville AR is being turned into a bicyclists haven. To the tune of Arkansas laws are making it that bicyclists don't have to pay attention to traffic laws. That's neat, wonder why... Ah. And while bicycling is one of the better things I guess billionaires can do, in the region buying bicycles are far beyond affordable anymore to a walmart wage because it's gotten so over the top fancy, and the Waltons literally have a helicopter with a bike rack to fly out to the trails. My dad is irritated because of how often it shakes his house as it goes over.

Same city, Alice Walton had a really nice museum built in the area that was surely out of the good of her heart... Ah. Unless really local, one might not know of her nickname "Drunken Alice" where she has a history of dwi's and wrecks, including one where someone was killed, yet somehow nothing seems to stick.

Yea... I've got a bit of an axe to grind with the Waltons having grown up in their personal playground, I agree with you to think this is a problem with just Amazon is ludicrous, and despite only living a state away it's amazing to hear how people bitch about Amazon, it's chokeholds, it's problems, its wrecking of the country, and gives a full pass to Walmart. We live in an oligarchy.

Completely unrelated to my bitching about Walmart, but a perfect example of execs doing this nonsense and how I got in trouble because I can't stop snarking: Worked for a medical testing facility, ran by a doctor. Said doctor buys himself a brand new shiny Lamborghini, then through the whole email has an announcement that for one day for 4 hours where any of the staff can get a picture with the Lambo and share on the company page. Now I met said doc once during training, but otherwise worked 3rd shift with two other people, he certainly never showed up when we had issues.

So when the day happened, it was one of those I commented it's the first time I think I'm glad that 3rd shift gets ignored on any staff events. Think about it for a second, then ask the others "Who has the newest car?", turns out was a Nissan Juke. So each of us go out and get a picture with the Juke, then sent the pictures in to where people were supposed to send in the pics with the Lambo. Turns out they got 4 pictures, the 3 with the Juke, and 1 with the Lambo. Got told by our manager said doc was pissed and to keep our heads down.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 58 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You break your back for pennies while they get millions a second to eat sushi off of a porn star's back.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Rookies. The real wealth gets to eat sushi off a porn star's front!

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[–] Hegar@kbin.social 48 points 5 months ago (6 children)

The only way this gig is ethically justifiable is if the support act is a guillotine.

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[–] chrishazfun@lemm.ee 47 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I wonder when "selling out" or being called a "sell out" stopped being a thing. It happened during my lifetime for sure. Now basically everyone everywhere you look in the music business not only is one, but the public seems to not even consider it an option to not sell out, and I think most people dream of being able to be a sell out themselves so much they pardon others preemptively and almost instinctively.

But like in this case, Dave Grohl is already a multimillionaire, does he really have to further prostitute himself for Amazon cash?

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[–] tearsintherain@leminal.space 36 points 5 months ago

FF (fuck 'em) whoring themselves for Amazon execs isn't the main story here. It's the disgusting exploitation of labor for profits. Organized destruction of unions and workers rights had made this tale an everyday, everywhere occurrence. Long ago there was a time when the news would report about main street and wall street as being more intertwined. Today their well being is in opposite directions. From symbiotic to parasitic.

It seems to prefer coercion as a method to keep people producing rather than inspiring them and earning their best.

Ambush style layoffs remove the feeling of safety, making people desperate to prove they shouldn’t be next. With this approach, Amazon embraces a timelessly blood-curdling rationale: nothing concentrates the mind like a credible threat.

Annual attrition targets for a fixed percentage of people every year create a survival mentality. No one wants to be the slowest gazelle when the lion comes around again, so everyone runs faster. Classic coercion.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

The real question is, how many pee bottles did they force Dave Grohl to fill in order to make his song quota in time?

[–] puck@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

Corporate musicians still suck

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