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[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 192 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly tho a dating site that's not incentivized to keep people on the dating site makes a lot of sense

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

Right? Done properly and without profit motivating every decision it could be a good thing. I mean I'm sure someone will find a way to make it creepy and weird, but you never know.

[–] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

I would legit use it. For-profit dating sites suck

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 99 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point of for profit dating apps isn’t to find you a date. It’s to have you engage with the service for as long as possible so they can make money off you.

If you find a long term relationship, they lose a customer.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly... Now people use this template logic and apply to other shit in your life ;)

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly why big toilet always wants me to keep shitting.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One of the few ol' relaibles tbh

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu@kbin.run 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

That’s what big toilet wants you to believe.

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 75 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I swear this is the plot to an anime/hentai.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 5 months ago

Literally was a Rick & Morty episode. Kinda.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"The Time I Was Forced By The Government Into A Relationship With My Tsundere High-School Sweetheart"

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

It is when the matches aren't optional

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Please start fucking more" - Japanese govt to Japanese people

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But also work 16 hours a day and then go drinking afterwards.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

In some ways I can see this being potentially problematic, however...

For-profit dating apps (i.e. all dating apps) are shit.

Not only do they aggressively restrict a lot of basic features behind shockingly expensive paywalls, but they also mess around with the recommendation algorithm to make you feel like you feel like you have to get the premium tier in order to even be seen sometimes.

Plus they're literally incentivised to keep you on the app - not match you up with someone permanently. And once you've proven you're someone who's willing to pay, they really won't want to let you go.

A publicly-owned dating app shouldn't have these issues. Japan is incentivised to make good matches - they want to boost birthrates and curb the loneliness pandemic they're experiencing.

I just hope Japan is a country that takes privacy and security seriously.

E: btw I mean publicly owned as in owned by the Japanese public, not as in publicly traded.

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[–] downpunxx@fedia.io 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If Japan wasn't so inherently racist to foreigners, it would be a target rich environment for people looking to invest in the culture, the country and starting a family

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The work environment is also toxic. I read that some large japanese companies have rooms where employees have to sit and do nothing if they want to get rid of them. Because firing them would mean admitting you where wrong to hire them and could not get them on board, so that is loss of face.

[–] th3dogcow@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It’s not about losing face. It is the fact that seishain, or permanent employees are very hard to fire. The company needs to keep a record of the employee’s failures.

In addition, the company needs to implement and execute improvement plans. The results of those need to be reviewed. The next plan has to be implemented. And so on.

Only when they fail to show improvement a certain number of times (I don’t know exactly) can they be legally fired. You can’t just fire someone like in the U.S. style of at will employment. That would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

So it is easier and cheaper to “persuade” the employee to resign.

However, this terrible behavior is considered to be power harassment, and all large companies now have ethics hotlines. Also, companies have to provide annual trainings on issues like this. So, I hope this practice is decreasing.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 15 points 5 months ago

Don't need to go to Japan for that, it's a common tactic in the west too to get the employee to quit.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 7 points 5 months ago

Corporate "culture" around the world is different but at the end of the day it is always about punking somebody below you...

Back in the day this was called jail house rules lol

[–] xep@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Let's just generalize an entire country by calling them all racist, that will surely make for fantastic discourse.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

The trick is learning the language but not going to Japan.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 25 points 5 months ago

Got to face reality that most people won't have more than 2-3 kids AND that's only if they feel economically secure and got enough free time to do it, ie live on 1 income.

Current economic regime is 69 hour work weeks while barely breaking even on the bills.

No way to tell why nobody can break replacement level 🤡

But hey we got government and tech bros who will help US!!!!

This bullshit remind me of the mental health workships at work... way to fucking miss the point "leadership"

[–] filister@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My rent costs me pretty much how much would it cost me to raise two kids. And wondering why people don't raise kids. Because life and rent became so expensive, it's literally impossible to rent and raise more than two kids on two average incomes.

[–] altec@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I can afford kids, but fuck making them live through this climate collapse we've created. I'll adopt if I really want a kid.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Based and true

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm disappointed that doesn't exist.

[–] supercargo@r.nf 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Now we're talking. ;)

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Old Japanese men in government positions cannot, and will not fix this.

[–] downpunxx@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

well, sure they can, in a snap of a finger, give 18 to 30 year old married Japanese free houses, free advanced education, and free childcare, this would get fixed in a matter of 20 years

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Plot twist, it was never about increasing births but about generating data sets

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Yes finally people get it.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago

It's the lesser of two evils vs. for-profit dating apps.

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

this can be a good thing... for japan (here in orbanistan it would be just another govermental scam, public money sewer :D ). I think the non free dating apps should be handled as scam, by the laws too, because those are really scams.

[–] rob200@lemmy.cafe 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know there *were government-run dating apps. Something I can research about. But this is coming from a u.s perspective. So in other countries, this might be common knowledge within their territory I understand that.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago

they want people to procreate

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 2 points 5 months ago

I imagine data security and what the government would know is putting some off. It is part of the reason the national ID (My Number) faltered.

Off the top of my head, and I'm sure there are more, people use: tinder, bumble, Pairs, Zwei, Zekushi, and probably more. Pairs and Zwei, at least, are geared toward long-term and marriage. Pairs had a very bad UX and, of course, a cost. I did meet some people on there, but nothing lasted (one nearly did, but I wasn't doing another LTR with a barely-functional alcoholic that otherwise was a great match).

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