this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2024
366 points (93.8% liked)

Technology

59495 readers
3041 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
L3s@lemmy.world
L3s@fry.gs
L4s@fry.gs
L4s@lemmy.world
enu@lemmy.world
366
Musk’s new Grok upgrade allows X users to create largely uncensored AI images (arstechnica.com)
submitted 3 months ago by some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org to c/technology@lemmy.world
47 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

So his site that already doesn’t make money with let subscribers make porn at an astonishing rate of electricity. He has no clue how to run a business.

top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 224 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Grok 2 uses the image model, "Flux." Flux is made by black forest labs. You two can download the model and run it locally on a moderately expensive gaming PC or use it for free at https://huggingface.co/spaces/black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-dev among other places.

I find it funny that the most newsworthy component of this product is made and distributed for free by a completely unrelated company. This is manufactured outrage by musk as a ploy to seem relivant in the ai space. All he did was put a free thing behind a Paywall.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's only free if you have an expensive GPU with a lot of VRAM. But otherwise I agree - Musk has no idea what he's doing - I doubt this will bring substantial money

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Uh no, I run Flux on my 8gb card no problem. Takes about 4 mins per render.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 15 points 3 months ago

4 mins per render.

ComfyUI I assume?

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Depends very much on steps, upscaling etc ofc

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I bought a blue checkmark so I could use Grok.

My buddy, literally today.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago

Fuck your buddy for giving that shitstain money, then.

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

I only checked replicate api but you can generate 333 images for $1. Ofc takes some know-how but it's cheap if you can get it set up

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There are a series of quants available at much smaller sizes such that you don't need the full size model. The full fp16 model is 23 GB but the fp8 quant is half that, and there are GGUF quants down to 6.8 GB.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Me and who?

[–] Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago

I don't think he will get that joke.

At the top level poster: you wrote "two" instead of "too".

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear it’s not free. I was able to do 2 prompts until it kicked me off for an hour

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 3 months ago

Well it's free it's just rate limited. Which makes sense given the amount of processing capacity that is required.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 114 points 3 months ago (4 children)

He has no clue how to run a business.

This isn't a business to him, it doesn't need to be, its monetary value is insignificant to him, it was always about having control of an established platform, and feeding its audience his propaganda.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a toy to him. A very expensive one.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago

Like I said, its monetary value is of no consequence to him, even if he loses it tomorrow he'll still be one of the richest people on earth by a long way. And it's certainly more than a toy to him, and while he might often act like a petulant manchild, don't think for a second that he doesn't know exactly what he's doing (not only with twitter, but with embedding his interests in defence and space agencies for example, without having to personally know anything about running or operating in those industries either).

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Musk buying Twatter is equivalent to the 18th century robber barons buying newspapers to control what they published

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And it's nothing out of the ordinary either, all main stream media is owned by other billionaires doing exactly the same, only they're better at or at least more invested in keeping the mask on.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Their empires were crated slowly and over time so a lot easier to blend

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

all main stream media is owned by other billionaires

... in some certain countries, where democracy is (coincidentally) weak.

[–] pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you give examples of countries where mainstream media is not owned by billionaires ?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

let's not act like he's playing 5d chess. he was forced to buy it with one of the worst deals in history if not the worst, for no other reason than the fact that he's a dumbass. and he's been desperate to monetize it since.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

he was forced to buy it with one of the worst deals in history if not the worst,

Was it though, since he's got exactly what he wants (and for what to him is a literal pittance)?

Your understanding of the deal from the perspective of someone who probably can't even imagine the scale of how much a billion dollars actually is, never mind a couple hundred billion (which will remain at a couple of hundred billion with or without twitter), and doesn't have his eye set on global domination, clearly isn't his.

I hate him as much as the next person, but the idea that he's just coincidentally fumbling perfectly through every step of the fascism playbook (or that doing so is "5D chess" rather than the natural state of a billionaire) is naive and uninformed at best, and laughable either way.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

dude he literally backed out of it and the courts forced him what are you even talking about. he DIDN'T want it, and he bought it at like 4x its value or something i don't even remember but it wasn't remotely approaching $44bn.

first of all, that's a sizeable amount of money even for him, especially since it doesn't fucking make any money in return.

second of all, his net worth isn't liquid. most of it is speculation subject to stock market.

third of all, and most importantly, a good deal is calculated by what you pay for something vs what it's worth, not by what you pay for something vs what you're worth. otherwise, Elon could buy bread for 400 thousand dollars a loaf and that would be a better "deal" than the average American, which is a ridiculous proposition.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The net outflows on Twitter cost him about a billion a year. And there's no golden parachute with Twitter, he's not a CEO, he's the sole owner.

Paying that debt requires him to come up with actual cash money, and Musk's fortune is entirely in Tesla stock. The more of that stock he sells off to cover his Twitter losses, the more he damages the stock price, which shrinks his remaining fortune.

So yes, he absolutely does care. Twitter won't bankrupt him, but it could definitely cause him some serious damage.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it could definitely cause him some serious damage.

You clearly don't understand just how much hundreds of billions of dollars is.

Try this:

https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

Don't try to be patronizing, you're clearly not very good at it.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 32 points 3 months ago

He’s hoping that by delivering maximum lulz to 4chan gamergate groyper incel types, they in turn can sweep Trump into the Whitehouse on a tidal wave of shitposts.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

grok make a picture of a huge black dick sliding Elon's throat making him tear up, but he's giving the thumbs up. his LIB er ty poster in the background.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 14 points 3 months ago

Now do one where elon is being pegged by Hillary while screaming "I love you Hillary, harder, harder, harderrrrr."

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good hands for an ai. Those girls need to look more uncomfortable around him. Ai can't seem to decide if they are surfing or riding an airplane through the sky like a surfboard. Nice touch for what I assume is epstien's plane.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Ai can't decide on anything. Normally it's a bad dream

[–] ARg94@lemmy.packitsolutions.net 14 points 3 months ago

Did AI write this blurb or have you had a stroke?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's unfortunate. It'll be the go to AI image generator.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It'll be mostly unfortunate for Musk as sponsors pull out driving X value down the drain

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

I thought they already did...

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I'm sure this will have 0 downsides and will go great! /s

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Based on the pricing they're probably betting most users won't use it. The cheapest api pricing for flux dev is 40 images per dollar, or about 10 images a day spending $8 a month. With pro they would get half that. This is before considering the cost of the language model.

[–] oktoberpaard@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

“Uncensored”: https://x.com/KarlMaxxer/status/1823753493783699901. I don’t know if this is really true, but if it is, it’s something that they should’ve called out in their article.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's not Grok, it's flux

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Honestly this is the first thing x has done right. As soon as a prompt I put in gets rejected im over that ai model. Not into content restrictions.