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(i’m also gonna ambush my friends about Signal on sunday and coerce them to download it to get rid of the green bubbles)

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[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m so paranoid I would never talk about that over SMS. 😂

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Damn I’d talk about it on national tv here in Australia. It’s just piracy, nbd.

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 3 months ago

Well at least you’re using i2p, I kind of wish more people would. I just don’t like generally using unencrypted communication methods, so discussing even a simple crime like piracy is no bueno for me.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hop on i2p! I dl’d it there.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I still don't know how I2P would be able to mask where the packets go to or come from, even if they encrypt the contents

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Onion-like routing. It takes multiple hops to get to a destination. Each hop can only decrypt the next destination to send the packet to (i.e. peeling off a layer of the onion).

[–] GrammarPolice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So torrenting but it's on TOR. That sounds like it would be hella slow

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, torrents usually run 100-300KiB/s. I guess not too bad for smaller files. About an hour or three per GB.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 months ago

you can pirate games but don't jerk yourself off about it, you don't have to justify downloading video games as media preservation to not be a bad person because of it

[–] odium@programming.dev 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I love paradox games, but the amount of dlc is killing me. I love how they continue to support their games, yes, but damn.

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[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 23 points 3 months ago

i’m also gonna ambush my friends about Signal on sunday

A bit late if you already told a commercial company about your piracy, as well

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Historical piracy was never about social justice, especially when you consider that a number of pirates during the 1600-1800s received government's blessings to operate, so long as they didn't attack the nation's ships.

Pirates simply did on sea the same thing highway robbers have been doing on land since the dawn of civilization.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Piracy was "tolerated", because it stole money from competitors.

Even if a pirate lied and only turned over some of the booty to the crown, it still took it from their enemies.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There were also those pirates that were told "alright we don't need you anymore. Don't pirate." And went "well if the agreement is over, I guess we can pirate your ships too!"

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Your reminder that Nintendo 64 games on the Nintendo Switch are using an open source emulator that Nintendo has not contributed to or endorsed in anyway, and is believed to be using game ROMs collected by preservationists.

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

Corporations using open source projects to maximize profits is very common.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

I don't remember which game, but there was one that it came out that they straight up lost the files for and had to download from a ROM site to put on the virtual console thing

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk abour other people but i pirate everything first and if its good i buy it. I pirated a bunch of games back in the day and bought the good ones. Terraria, geometry dash, minecraft, etc(can you tell i played on mobile lol)

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

except geometry dash i woulda guessed pc

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Its so much better on pc....

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"It's expensive, but I still want everything, so I pirated it. Seems pretty justified."

Look, I've pirated a ton in my life, but this whole "This is actually a noble pursuit" is such a load of fucking horse shit. We want something and don't want to pay the price that is required to get it, so we take it. The best part is "preserving" it, because we all know that when this guy is done playing, it will be deleted and he'll never think of it again.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just don't feel like giving Hollywood anymore more money. Fuxk them

That's all 🐸

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

This is a much more honest answer, one that I also agree with.

[–] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Totally agree. The self aggrandizing, "hero of digital media preservation" thing is getting a bit ridiculous.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was not wise. Green bubbles usually mean "now they know".

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago

Let them know. Let them send their letters. I’m running out of toilet paper to wipe my ass with

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

Actual piracy involves a lot of corpses of mostly innocent sailors, IP violations are a victimless crime.

[–] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Look guys, you don't need to justify your piracy. There is nothing ethically wrong with pirating media.

Anticonsumer practices are justification enough. If someone has a childish response of "uR sTeaLiNg!!", give them an equally childish retort and tell them to eat your farts.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You pirate to preserve media.

I pirate because I like pissing off billion dollar conglomerates.

We are not the same.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 3 months ago

I pirate cause I can 🤷‍♂️ I spend a lot of money on media and gaming, sometimes I'm not $60 interested though lol.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 months ago

I am with this guy... Piracy generates some of the best corpo cope content

Priceless seeing them getting twisted INA not about it with all of their lawyers and can't do shot about some poor sucker just watching it without laying daddy the tax hehe

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

I’d argue that indeed we do as a community need to justify our actions. Mainstream knowledge and media label us as close to thieves and criminals. People need to realize we just want to share bits and bytes across the internet, and we are stewards of media preservation and freedom of information. As cracking down piracy become normalized, it’s even more important to have a voice in society, and reassure people that what we’re doing is morally grounded

[–] friendly_ghost@beehaw.org 10 points 3 months ago
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

"The complete experience..."

Dude most of those DLCs for Stellaris are just new parts for customizing the look of your civ. Only 2 actually are like expansions for the game that add more than just aesthetic content.

Not saying you should have bought it over pirating, but like... You could have saved bandwidth by also not getting most of those DLCs at all.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Oh frfr

Which ones?

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

While I am also not a huge fan of their DLCs it does actually make sense.

The base game is still a good game many many years after release and it's even better now than it was at release due to the free updates that come with the paid DLCs. There is also little reason to buy every single DLC at once or at all. You buy the ones with features you like. And there are obviously sales too. Don't buy at full price! Everybody knows that.

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