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[–] aniki@lemmy.zip 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

I do miss the "making of" features that showed behind the scenes but as computers got better and movie execs got cheaper it wasn't that interesting to just be like "well we did it with a green screen and then in post." for fucking EVERYTHING...

It was much more fun watching pure artists at their craft making models and explosions and trick camera work for practical effects.

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

I think it takes the same amount of knowledge to do well.

But cheap CGI looks better than cheap practical effects. Or it can be made cheaper. Maybe both.

Anyway, even Empire Strikes Back involved using computers for some work. Yep, late 70s' computers.

It's not one or another with these.

I think the reason for the drop in quality is moviemaking becoming corporate. Not "owned by corporations" kind of corporate (obviously that too), but "no way to get in without acquaintances or patrons inside" corporate, nepotism.

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[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I always loved the behind the scenes for Eternal Sunshine. Kate was so excited about the production, she'd be like "I had to crawl through this hole into a different set and do a quick costume change so we could do it all in one take."

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

The making of Fury Road is quite fascinating, the bulk of the vehicles and stunts are real. A lot of the Fast and the Furious stunts and vehicles are real as well.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One thing I always appreciated about the Fast and Furious movies were their lean to practical effects, at least the earlier ones.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I want to live in the world where the F&F franchise never stopped doing practical effects, and actually launched a car into space.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I did say goodbye to almost all DVDs, but I haven’t said goodbye to 4K Blu Ray discs, nor will I.

[–] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I am disappointed it feels like physical media is slowly going away though. It's not only nice to have a physical collection in my opinion, but it directly supports the stuff you like, and you don't have to deal with the bs that comes with digital "ownership" or the ever changing mess that are streaming services.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Check out bandcamp. It's for music, but you can stream tracks to give them a listen, and then buying them nets you a straight up file download in an audio format of your choice.

A world where you can both support the creator online, and receive something you get to keep in return, is possible.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I hope we'll get there for movies one day.

I just want to legally buy a DRM-free movie file containing multiple audio tracks and subtitles that I can slap in my Plex server and call it a day.

For the moment I'm doing it myself using my own Blu-Ray discs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good news! You can pirate high quality blueray rips from the internet and since you already own a license to the content it’s not even a crime ;-)

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Finding a MKV with the audio tracks (english and french) as well as embedded subtitles for the languages I want is often more work than just ripping it myself.

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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

That's all well and good, but physical media is selling less and less as the average person moves to streaming.

Sooner or later, there will be a tipping point where media industry execs just stop selling physical media altogether to deny pirates a source, as the profits no longer outweigh the "downsides".

Webripping is unlikely to stop for as long as streaming options exist, but then we'll be stuck with low quality bitrates as enshittification ensures every penny is pinched when it comes to bandwidth.

High quality drm-free file downloads, available online, officially, would be ideal.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i feel like my 24TB of movies and tv is a physical copy. i can watch over 2500 movies or 30,000 episodes perfectly curated with extras, commercial free and can hand a copy to my kids on a single drive.

[–] Thatuserguy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't mind having downloaded digital copies. I have a Plex server of stuff too. But sometimes it's just easier to just buy a disk rather than find a safe/working torrent just to get it digitally

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

i spose. theres lots of automation tools available now..

adding a title to sonarr and having it automatically downloaded, processed and added to my library seems a lot easier than driving to some store or ordering online where i would now i have to deal with 'disks'

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Haha! Physical media has been "slowly going away" since before UHD existed as a format. Just keep buying whatever format you like and distributors will keep it going. Look at all the catalog titles and niche (often limited special run) titles still being added to UHD.

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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Discs mean too much hassle. I'd have to rip them all prior to storing the movies on my harddrives. Streaming subscriptions are convenient, but too limited and they don't offer the best quality. IMHO, a download option is the best of both worlds.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago

Bandcamp but for movies and TV would be amazing.

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[–] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 42 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I haven't given up on DVDs. Don't assume we've all abandoned the disc format, because I'm certain many of us still use them.

[–] Spaceinv8er@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago

There's literally dozens of us

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I really miss video rental stores.

walking in to the smell of fresh popcorn, getting an enormous bag of it for like 99 cents, walking up and down the aisles browsing the latest releases for something that non-algorythmically catches your eye to watch over the weekend.

Maybe even swinging through the game aisle to pick up the new game that just came out.

It was an experience that is lost and will never be replicated by streaming/rental boxes/etc/etc.

Worse, the loss of physical ownership. You do not own anything you buy on a streaming service. Sony as proven that on more than one occasion. You are also stuck to the whims of your internet connection.

But physical media? You can play that anywhere, any when, any how. WIth no worry for stable internet connections and other bullshit.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

my local video store had the perfect setup. they were next to a pizza place and actually installed a window connected to it so you can order a pizza and look for a movie to watch while waiting for it to be ready. it was perfect. now its a stupid ass dollar store

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you live where I live? Exact same scenario, including the fate of the building.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

holy shit its possible. family video connected to a marcos pizza?

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

holy shit i never thought id find anybody from my hometown on lemmy LOL this is amazing

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Me either! Is it now a dollar general?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Oh damn. That’s wild.

Physical media isn't dead, you can still buy DVD/Bluray disks for popular content, unless it's a platform exclusive.

So if you really value physical media, buy it and refuse to use streaming services. I rip mine to Jellyfin so I get the same streaming platform experience, while owning physical media. If my kids want to watch something, I order it and rip it. If my internet connection dies, I still have access to it because it's on my local network. If someone wants to borrow it, I just give them a copy (or I can point them to my Jellyfin service, which is also available outside my house).

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's definitely a vibe. I took a wormhole (time travel) to 1991, walked into a blockbuster and keeled over from nostalgia.

Nostalgia is such a complex/convoluted feeling -- you can't have it if you didn't have a past to draw the experience from, but when you do have it, it's almost like a religious or philosophical experience both acknowledging and becrying (or grieving) the passage of time.

Unfortunately, even with a "time machine", we the people who walk through the portals are ever changed. We won't ever live in the past again. We can see those places and experience them in our present states, but...

Just like a glass shattering on the ground and the pieces scattering: Entropy cannot be undone.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It seems like the extras were for a specific limited demographic. When the costs of producing the extra content, and sales of the physical media are taken into account.... I would guess that when a no-extras vs extras version of the same movie was available, the one that was cheaper with less content sold more.

I enjoyed the extra features on a handful of shows, but I think this is a smaller sales-base than the author realizes.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Back when the remake of Battlestar Galactica was on the air the showrunner Ronald D. Moore had a podcast where he'd sip some scotch and smoke a couple cigarettes and provide commentary for the episode. It worked really well, and got me to watch the show twice because I wanted to follow along. Eventually they made it onto the DVD/Bluray releases as commentary audio tracks.

With the growth of podcasting I'm amazed other shows haven't done something similar.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have all these features still in my plex library

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago

Now it’s possible to browse hundreds of movies you don’t watch to watch from the comfort of your sofa.

[–] 2ncs@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I mean those things can exist outside of DVD

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

My wife and I just streamed a movie a few days ago. It had a ton of bloopers intermixed with the end credits.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

the simpsons dvd and the commentaries on them were amazing.

[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Who's said bye to DVDs?

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