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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 133 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The French deserve some respect. If you want to know what a true strike or protest looks like, look to the French.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 85 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

More and more these days French disrespect feels like boomer shit. Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions. The industrial action within the transport sector alone.

I was visiting Paris during some of the aforementioned protest. They’re out and about (in numbers) and will gladly get out to protest when they feel it necessary. Plenty of other western countries could learn, a lot, from the French people.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep saying this and people look at me like I'm some kind of extremist

Like no dude I just want universal healthcare

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

universal healthcare

*me, looking at you like you're some sort of communist

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 2 weeks ago

The American right would like to categorize it like that but it's not communism at all, it's socialism. I wish they could mischaracterize the correct political philosophy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I remember when Obama promised us that. Good times.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look what the French did when the government came for their pensions.

For the record we did get it down from 65 to 64, but we still got +2 years.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I appreciate that the outcome may not have been what was strictly desired. The French populace still get off their arse and do more than complain on social media while effectively doing three fifths of fuck all. More than what can be said about some others, especially those who are inclined to make brain devoid white flag jokes.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even today, they just don't give a fuck about rules.

In Southern France there are speed cameras being set up everywhere, and they'll catch you for being even a few km's over. The locals (mostly rural) have responded by either torching them, encasing them in hay bales, painting over them, or chopping them down. The police keep putting them up, alongside cameras to watch the cameras, and the locals keep destroying them overnight.

[–] horseloaf@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Also true in the west, where I am, so I presume the same all over France.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The important thing is to burn lots of people's cars. Probably locals who are also protesting.

That's how you really get the attention of the authorities.

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[–] cmder@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So yeah why does the american/english don't do more research about origins and call everything french ?

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

It's because deep frying was not very common in the U.S. Immersion in hot fat was considered a French style of cooking, so they're French style fried potatoes. I think "fries" instead of "frieds" is dialect that caught on nationally in the U.S. in the 70s.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, it never occurred to anyone ever to stick their tongues in each others mouths until it was documented in ancient India.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

Anon didn't say that it started in ancient India, just that the fact that it happened in ancient India proves that it didn't start in France

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

We generally attribute discoveries to whoever documented it first. It's almost laughable to attribute it to the French based on a kissing style that was widespread there in 1923. Surely people were doing it before then. Yet, the Americans and British found it so unique they referred to it as French kissing.

Perhaps it was common before ancient India, but then the question is, why didn't the ancient Babylonians, Egyptians, Chinese, Romans, and Greek document on it then?

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just have to triple check whether French revolution occured in French.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Which gives rise to the true founding father of Germany. Napoleon.

Without his restructuring of the HRE for management it would be even harder to unify later.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast "French". We're definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.

[–] olosta@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No we are not attributing fries to the Belgian, fries are french. The Belgian improved on our invention and make the best fries, but Frenchs invented it.

Content warning, a lot of french: https://www.musee-gourmandise.be/fr/musee-gourmandise/articles-de-fond?view=article&id=132:la-veritable-histoire-de-la-frite&catid=77:articles-fond

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Also here we call it "cafetière à piston" not french press.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

No idea what a French press is. Probably a cafetière ?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

FIY: French toast is the english name for pain perdu.

Also probably not "invented" by the French, but no one thinks they invented simple toast.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Britain is the land mass that includes England, Wales, and Scotland.

William the Conquerer was the first Norman king of England and never had power over Wales and he was mostly successful in gaining homage from King Malcolm III, but never king over the lands.

Edward I about two hundred years later almost pulls it off, but doesn't quite get a firm grip on Scotland. James I in the early 17th century holds the crown for each of the lands. In 1707 they formalize the relationship with a treaty.

So... No the French did not found Britain.

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Also Normans were descendants of viking settlers. So French didn't technically fund England either (yes, I'm being pedantic for the sake of the joke).

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[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

> Britain was founded by the French

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon? The son of an Irish immigrant? He’s not the kind of guy who’d let facts get in the way of an opinion so we’re probably pretty solid saying that in front of him. If he did run his mouth, then I got your back, blud.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Belgium is kinda France tbh

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The first step is admitting it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's almost like national borders are fake and peoples just blend into each other

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To save anyone else the wiki trip

“Some authors consider the recipe for Aliter Dulcia (translated as 'Another sweet dish') included in the Apicius, a 1st-century CE Ancient Roman cuisine cookbook, "not very different" from modern French toast, although it does not involve eggs.[10][11]

In Le Viandier, culinary cookbook written around 1300, the French chef Guillaume Taillevent presented a recipe for tostées dorées[12] involving eggs and sugar.[13]”

[–] superkret@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

When a dish with 3 ingredients is missing one ingredient, it's not the same dish.

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

"France" comes from the "franks" who were considered Germans originally

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not the French claiming ownership of stuff, this is shitty naming on the part of Americans who thinks all european food is from France. Or who really wouldn't know the difference between Europe and France to begin with.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The most elegant and refined food, fries.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The French invented sex. Before then people would just sort of split into two small people who’d then have to grow back to full size, and it was very boring and not very je ne c’est sais quoi.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"We invented democracy, existentialism, and the ménage à trois."

"Oh man... Those are three pretty good things."

[–] swordfish@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Democracy? Explain please, i thought the concept was way older than France.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 week ago

I'm just quoting Talladega Nights.

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[–] modeler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Well, technically the French did not found Britain - they were Normans.

Who were the Normans? They were Scandinavian vikings who had been raiding France for decades. Eventually the French king decided to offer them lands (now called Normandy) in France if they promised to stop raiding and instead protect the French coast.

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 6 points 1 week ago

Meh, this is largely a debate over semantics since the mere notion of a "French people" wouldn't have made sense at the time. "Frenchness" isn't an ethnicity, it's a mix of many different peoples that mixed and intertwined over the years (celts, romans, germanic tribes, immigrants from all over Europe...) and that eventually were all brought together as subjects of the french kingdom.

Normans weren't "french" in the modern sense of the word, but then again very few people in what would later become modern France would have at that time : they all would have considered themselves "Provençal", or "Breton", or "Lorrain" who just happened to live in a Duchy that swore fealty to the king of France.

All things considered, William the Conqueror was a lord of the french kingdom, swore fealty to the king of France and spoke French, so he was no less (but no more, granted) French than any other of his peers. Whether you want to call him french is up to you but is largely an anachronism

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