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[–] nshibj@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

What's with the clickbait title?

This is not news, it has been happening since Smart TVs started being a thing.

One of the most common TV OSs is AndroidTV / GoogleTV. Google is the biggest ad company in the world.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"A convicted felon and sex offender wants to control your next country"

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 days ago

Ehm, it is already like that. Most of smart TVs use Android which is under Google control, a big (if not the biggest) ad company.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 120 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Look into Sceptre. 4K with no OS, no ads, doesn't ask for WiFi - just a TV.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It’s hard but not impossible, as even ‘retail displays’ run an OS in the background to control input switching, image settings etc.

Honestly the best thing to do is buy whatever TV you want (we have a couple of the LG OLEDs in our household), and don’t ever plug them into your network (or WiFi). Otherwise, with updates OS and apps become sluggish, with more ads crammed in.

Instead, use a seperate media player (e.g. Apple TV if you’re already on the iOS ecosystem, Nvidia Shield or similar for Android, HTPC if you’re so inclined etc.) - they’re more powerful, arguably more secure & private, and portable between displays if/when you upgrade.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 7 points 2 days ago

What’s a TV? Is that like a monitor?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago

Getting increasingly hard.

I finally learned why those 50" tvs are so cheap, like $200. Buy a dumb TV that's the same size is easily 5x the price.

Then again, nobody needs a TV and I only bought one during the pandemic, then connected it to my pi hole.

[–] DampCanary@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

unfortunately,
on some markets they are gone.
"Smart" TVs have squeezed them out.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

You can find them. Look for digital signage. And then start crying at the cost.

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[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is there a reason to go for a dumb TV as opposed to just not connecting your smart TV to wifi?

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (10 children)

People smarter than me have already had that discussion in the thread and after some heated arguments the consensus is that smart TVs have been caught actively searching for same manufacturer hardware and open wi-fi networks to access the web and call home.

So...

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My current TV is clawing my firewall like squirrel with rabies. I'm sure the next one will too.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just give smartTVs no network at all

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Please enable internet access to setup your new TV, otherwise no TV for you.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Then you turn around and return it. Don’t encourage that behavior by just letting it happen.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago

An ad giant already owns and controls my current TV’s OS

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 42 points 4 days ago (12 children)

FYI for those using DNS-based adblocking: I discovered that my AndroidTV box asks 8.8.8.8 when my local DNS server blocks a request.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Block all port 53 traffic from your network outside of your DNS server/pihole itself.
Block all known DoH servers.

If you want to get REALLY fancy you can write a NAT rule that will force any outgoing request on port 53 to route to your dns/pihole.

I do all of this. It's actually funny to see the requests that were hardcoded to go somewhere. Giant fuck you to those companies.

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[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Depending on your router you can forward all request on port 53 to your DNS server regardless of the IP they try to use.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I always have issues with dns blocking so I tried something sneaky I redirected all DNS requests to 1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1 and it worked brilliantly, for about a month when it stopped working all together, I don’t know if a cache was wiped or google saw what I was doing and made a special exception just for me, obviously I want to believe I’m a special snowflake taking the world’s largest internet company head on in an epic battle of wits and skill but I think the cache thing might be more likely for some reason.

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[–] addie@feddit.uk 13 points 3 days ago

What a shower of twats. Don't block the request in that case, just redirect it to your local server that returns a 1x1 transparent png for all requests.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 48 points 4 days ago

I don’t want an OS on my next TV…

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Good thing I don't care about owning a tv I don't already know how to jailbreak.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don’t ever connect them to the internet. Period.

If it’s required, buy a different tv. It’s not difficult to look that up beforehand.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I suspect in the near future it will be impossible to buy a TV without spyware/adware. The only option will be to not connect it to the internet and run your own Raspberry PI/SBC based solution.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I have an old 60 inch 1080p TV from the early days of smart tvs. It has a built in app for plex and youtube, a remote that works as a pointer, it's insanely slow but it has zero ads and I'm never ever getting a newer model.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Same here, one of our "smart" TVs needs Ethernet for networking, the other needs a Wi-Fi dongle. Rest aren't even smart. All 1080p.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 28 points 4 days ago

Googles been a TV OS for a while now.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I got a old dumb Toshiba tv lol.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

normal people can't just.... grab a single board PC and... install Linux on it! What are they supposed to do!?

I dunno, suffer, I guess. Pass the keyboard. I'm feeling Friends.

edit: my cousin and his wife came over about four months ago and saw we used a keyboard and the TV was just a computer and he went "why the fuck haven't we just done that?". He doesn't know know Linux, but he has a Steam Deck and got by alright.

Sometimes, they just need the idea, a little push.

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