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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

I’ve spent boatloads more time watching football than playing football, too.

Also, with Rainbow 6: Siege, there’s so many ways to play the game that I love watching videos to get ideas for new strategies to try.

Lastly, contrary to popular belief, a lot of games actually require thinking about what you’re doing. Time spent playing is not really time spent spacing out so I will happily watch videos about a game I like to play when I don’t have the energy to actually focus on playing them.

[–] Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

I don't watch streams, but I do watch a lot of Let's Plays (i.e. Materwelonz, WoolieVersus). Sometimes to watch them play games that I normally wouldn't, sometimes to listen to their insights at certain hype points in games I previously played, and usually due to loneliness (i.e. parasocial relationships).

Regarding the last point, it also tends to be the reason I gravitate towards games with strong story, or MMOs. Feeling like I belong to a community keeps the loneliness at bay. Outside of games, I like to be in crowded areas, though not necessarily interacting with anyone.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 38 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Makes enough sense, as goofy as it sounds.

  1. No Money. - Videos let me watch games that aren't worth buying to me along with letting me parse games that look fun enough to buy.
  2. No Time. - Videos can be put on during other chores or tasks, left on as background noise during times where I would absolutely not have enough time to actually play a game.
  3. Skill Issue. - No matter how good I want to be, I'm ultimately just kinda ok at games. Watching higher level players can be a way for me to learn tips and tricks to improve, or they can be a way for me to experience difficulty levels of the game I will never realistically achieve on my own.
[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You forgot: The videos often have absurd challenges that most gamers would never try, like for example trying to beat Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire with only a physical attacking Abra.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Arguably that falls under both 2 and 3, but yeah entirely unique challenges or play modes is another reason to watch.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

Or counting how many people are employed in Skyrim.

[–] ptitfred@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Amen to that!

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Where's "New report claims sports fans spend more time watching sport / videos about sport than playing sport".

This isn't some new, crazy, hard to understand concept.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

I'll be honest I find it hard to understand for sports as well.

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I watch games about the game in gaming, but I also watch games about my game when I'm not gaming. Therefore by definition my gaming will be less than my watching gaming.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

What if gaming time is 4 hours, you spend 3/4 of gaming time playing games, and you watch gaming videos for one hour outside gaming time?

[–] Master@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

You have to watch the video of the game you are playing in order to play the game you are playing. By definition... (if you are video gaming) all bets are off for boardgamers!

[–] zipsglacier@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Board gamers watch videos about board games too!

[–] Master@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

The point is if you are video gaming you are literally watching a video of yourself playing the game. That is why it is "video"gaming...

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

What if gaming time is 4 hours

I remember not having kids...

Now gaming time, if I'm lucky, is like 30 mins a week. Much of that spent patching and remembering wtf I was doing last time I played.

Not counting playing with them, at least. Though they spend more time watching Minecraft videos than playing Minecraft, so there's that.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My wife likes YouTubers but isn't a gamer. If I'm doing stuff with them I'm more likely to pick a video about games than a game.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

My wife thought she was the same until suddenly it clicked and she realized she is in fact a gamer

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

We called my wife "fake gamer girl" for a while because we made a group chat back in 2020 with everyone in it to coordinate online games. They were there because she would play Among Us or Jack Box with us. It was very tongue in cheek. To be honest, they may have even said it themselves for the first time lol.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago

Nice. My partner is more of a movie person and I'm more a games person, so I'll watch movies with her almost as a favour, and she'll return it by playing games with me lol.

There's an art to picking a movie or game for a choosie person, and we've both got pretty good at predicting eachothers' tastes in media.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This thread got me thinking Lemmy needs a better "find a co-op buddy" community for games in general. If it's here already, could use better marketing.

Not sum'm I suffer from, but I want to see y'all living your best lives too. A good homie can make or break a game run.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I miss r/summonsign and whatever the one for elden ring was. From Soft co-op is the best part of their games.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

In other stunning news, researchers find people who like sports spend more time watching it than playing it.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

people want to play with friends, and with gaming getting lonelier, i think people are seeking the parasocial relationships on streaming sites.

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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

All of my little cousins and nephews watch streamers. To them it's more fun to watch someone play than to play most times. They don't like dealing with challenging games all the time, they really just want to have fun. These kids do play games but they watch more than me so I tried watching some streamers and I get it. When I was growing up we had systems with multiple controller ports and no online. Online gaming was PC only until I went to college and console online took off. But growing up you had to bring your friends or cousins to play some Mario Kart 64. That was way different than playing with randoms online. Streamers kinda brings that connection back.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 day ago

Streamers kinda brings that connection back

In a parasocial kinda way...?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Never really understood watching it when playing is also very little effort. It's not football.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

for me it's mostly because I am too depressed and unmotivated to get out of bed and go sit in front of the console/PC but not depressed enough to put the dumb addictive black rectangle down

(i am taking medication i hope this changes)

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 21 hours ago

Interesting that you see a difference between the two. Football also does not require incredible effort to play, still a lot of people only watch it.

Well...

  1. "Videos about gaming" don't necessarily have to be gameplay footage. Reviews, promotional materials, discussions etc. count. Maybe even stuff like Viva La Dirt League's content which is live action skits about video games.

  2. Tutorials and walkthroughs exist.

  3. Some vintage systems are difficult to get up and running or even find. For a lot of people it's easier to just watch an enthusiast do it on youtube.

  4. Especially on Twitch with streamers it's as much about the player as it is the game.

  5. Especially with esports or speedrunning it's like watching a sporting event. Even if you like playing football too there's something to watching the professionals play at the top echelons.

  6. One can watch gaming videos while doing other things. When I was moving into my apartment in Greensboro I assembled my furniture while watching HCBailly play through the Gameboy Zelda games.

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm definitely one of those people, but I work in an office where they let us watch shit on our phones as long as the work still gets done. A hell of a lot easier to watch YT videos than to try to sneak an Xbox S into a cubicle farm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Might wanna contemplate about nvidias geforce now 😁

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't use it, but I'm still salty that publishers had a fit about that. It's honestly none of their fucking business where you run your games.

I'm not investing in a cloud only platform like Google's abandoned attempt, so the only hope is a hybrid like Geforce Now.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's an okay-ish solution for people who don't wanna invest in a pricey pc or that just wanna game from their potato thinclient. No mods kills it for me personally.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A guy at work used to use a cloud service called Shadow PC.

They'd basically rent a gaming PC out and he'd just torrent them right on to the cloud machine. Pretty sure mods would have worked there.

It felt a touch laggy with a mouse, but a controller would probably have been just fine. It's a shame there's a disconnect between what gamers want (a gaming PC that's just somewhere else) and what providers want (a walled garden).

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

True. Those cloud-services allow for mods. But still too laggy, too expensive, too much hassle. And in the end you own nothing again. Like car leasing 😑

But gf now is much cheaper, but therefore has those downsides. But yes. Just a pc somewhere else

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 155 points 1 day ago (18 children)

imagine if this was about football fans

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[–] RealFunAtParties@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would say this isn't me, but I started playing Dwarf Fortress lately and have probably been watching an hour of tutorials for every 30 minutes I play at this point. 😅

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Never watched a stream, never really understood the motivation. But i also don't consume social media (besides lemmy) or such and am generally anti-social, so that might be that. I would be infuriated if those people wouldn't do what I would do. Also the chat is... Annoying.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The wisdom of streams is simple.

I do shit with my life other than gaming. If I want to experience a cool game without spending the money and without investing the time to get good at the game, it's a no-brainer to watch a playthrough done by a professional gamer and a professional live commentator like the best streamers are.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

That makes sense. As someone who never saw the appeal in watching sports, this is probably the same league. But somehow it's like watching porn when one isn't in the mood for actual sex 😁

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Expensive as the games are these days you gotta do copious amounts of research before plunking down those bennies

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[–] donuts@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's time for game publishers to think about in-game video as something beyond marketing alone," said Rhys Elliott, games analyst, MIDiA Research. ''By reclaiming video engagement, publishers have the potential to unlock new revenue streams, like advertising, and drive growth.''

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I stream a 25-year-old MMO, EverQuest, about 8 hours a week and lots of viewers just want to live vicariously through my moment remembering when they were doing it themselves without committing 500-1,000 hours to level a character.

I also watch other people play other class types of endgame content to do the same.

I'm not the most engaging streamer, but I enjoy answering questions to my 2-10 viewers. I also enjoy when another streamer answers my own questions.

I don't understand watching streamers with 4,000 viewers spamming kewk emojis though.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

This is not at all surprising. Almost all hobbies and sports are like this.

The only difference that makes this interesting is the fact that you could be gaming while watching about gaming, which is untrue for many other hobbies.

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