this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2024
572 points (94.3% liked)

Not The Onion

12525 readers
839 users here now

Welcome

We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

  1. Links to news stories from...
  2. ...credible sources, with...
  3. ...their original headlines, that...
  4. ...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Comments must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I nominate this NYT opinion piece for shittiest take of 2024!

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

Saruman, not frodo, was the true ring bearer.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 336 points 5 days ago (23 children)

0.0

if

Thompson “grew up in a working-class family in Jewell, Iowa,” a tiny farming community north of Des Moines, Amy Julia Harris and Ernesto Londoño report. “His mother was a beautician, according to family friends, and his father worked at a facility to store grain.” Thompson’s childhood was spent “going row by row through the fields to kill weeds with a knife, or working manual labor at turkey and hog farms.”

is true... then he's a class traitor; not a hero. he made his money fucking over the working class. that's not heroic.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 101 points 5 days ago (5 children)

you really think someone would do that? just go on a once-respected publication and tell lies?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 56 points 5 days ago (5 children)

"Just".... ? no. There's a certain vetting process that makes sure they tell the right lies.

[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth 47 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Not sure if you didn't get it, but that's a reference to an Arthur meme. altr

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

I'm aware of the arthur reference, but it's really important to realize these aren't off-the-cuff lies.

This is a planned, coordinated effort that has been going on since before I was even alive; and the ~~journalists~~propagandists have been very carefully selected- and have indeed worked very hard to get the job of fucking over americans.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] makyo@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The irony being here that a 'working class hero' to Bret is someone who is no longer working class

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 days ago

he made his money fucking over the working class. that's not heroic

I mean, of course it isn't, but nobody told the NYT or their opinion writers who are currently tripping over each other trying to normalize Trump, Thompson, and other monsters..

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They love these stories. They reinforce their delusions of libertarianism and that anyone who is truly able will be found and given their rightful position.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yup. If any part of that bio is true, then that's even more unforgivable. It means that unlike someone who was born into wealth and had asshole-ishness thrust upon them,, he deliberately chose to be an asshole.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is one of the problems with treating class as an inherent identity, not a person's relation to the means of production. A person that begins as a direct wage laborer is working class, but if they ascend the ladder they become closer and closer to carrying out the functions of the owner class (i.e. becoming upper management) they lose proletarian character and gain bourgeois character. So the UHC CEO may have started out working class but obviously he became a bourgeois monster.

There's a similar pitfall, which is the uncritical moralization of the working class. The working class has a world historical role to play and is the class oppressed by the bourgeoisie, but it can easily have reactionary elements that should not be embraced, esoeciskky not as "working class values". The working class exists in the society shaped by the bourgeoisie, with marginalizations baked in by the bourgeoisie that can become self-perpetuating (e.g. racism), so we must not simply accept whstever the majority opinion of the working class is, let alone some random guy that ended up facilitating death and pain for profit.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (17 replies)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 93 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

No industry is perfect

No....

— nor is any health care model

True, true, but this is like talking about Jeffrey Epstein and saying "we all like to have sex sometimes"

— and insurance companies make terrible calls all the time in the interest of cost savings. But the idea that those companies represent a unique evil in American life is divorced from the experience of most of their customers.

Nope. Very very incorrect. American healthcare ranks near the top of the most expensive and most obstructive in the world.

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love this comment so much, that I upvoted, saved, and commented on it.

Bravo, good human, you helped to restore a bit of faith in humanity in me.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Thank you very much. Have a great rest of the weekend.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 85 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The earth will be fine. It’s us who will be fucked.

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 151 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, who gives a fuck about what his parents did for a living, he fucked over people's health and lives for profit.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You know the rags to riches story is the best rock of owner class narrative...

If you work hard enough, you can join the club! I'd you are not in the club, you clearly didn't work hard enough, peasant.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago

I mean how many people do I have to kill with spreadsheets?? I've already taught two people vlookups and they said excel made them want to die...

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Obviously other rich people, like the chucklef who penned it

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They are deluded. They still think about the American dream as if it wasn't a nightmare. Yeah, leave all your people behind, let them die or rot in poverty, as long as you make it.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine you can extract 100k in premiums over lifetime of the slave?

Then at year 20 he get cancer... Now if you pay, it will cost 1m aka his premium plus 9 other slaves who won't get cancer...

So why would you deny and book all that sweet cheese.

Nothing will change until parasites are removed from profit seeking positions and health care system is reformed to do this.

If more dead CEOs are needed, well we got people doing school shootings so hopefully they update targeting algos.

Boardrooms, not classrooms.

This fight will take a generation. Owners are already turning narratige. Left and right politics clowns are starting to derail discussions.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"Oh look, Brian Thompson has some characteristics of you poors, you should consider him your hero!"

This article is literally based on feeding class warfare. There's something people have to understand - "second class" is just the supposedly the right way of doing things so you can eventually live well and make sure your children live well. The amount of assholes in today's world who are either rich assholes and remain rich assholes who give no shits about the right way of doing things, or poor people who are like them and rise above everything else because they are assholes and embrace it, is far too high. The absolute shamelessness of this article as the second class is being dismantled because it's just better for rich assholes for everyone to remain poor except the ones willing to become as much of an asshole as them just speaks volumes about the state of American society.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thompson "grew up in a working-class family in Jewell, Iowa"

A class traitor, then.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

Every single gang banger who raps about making money, society be screwed, is this guy. It is the very manifestation of the status quo, not working as a society but as someone who milks it and feeds the infighting. Much like the writer of this New York Times opinion piece.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 79 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The NYT's true colors are showing more obviously every day.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The NYT only put the Holocaust on the front page 26 times when it was happening. Only 6 of those times were Jewish people identified as primary victims.

They have never cared about actual news, only manufacturing consent.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Its an editorial bro... Why are you shitting on genocide apologist of record?!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Onion really needs to take that headline and run with it in their special way.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 days ago

Like just printing it as is?

Whoever said the onion's job is getting harder because reality is catching up to them on being satirical is so, so correct.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

This is such a bad editorial it isn't just the worst one of the year, it's on the short list for worst oped of the century. Right up there with the guy who said that we should replace libraries with Amazon stores.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

His tongue must be so sore from all that bootlicking.

[–] hernanca@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago

These guys don't get it, maybe on purpose. What makes one "working class" is having to work to live, not being poor. Or, in this case, being just an injury away from losing it all.

The middle class is a myth.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago
[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago

Just when you thought the NY Times' reputation couldn't get any worse this year ...

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

81 percent of insured adults gave their health insurance plans a rating of “excellent” or “good.”

In related news, 81 percent of diners at Michelin star restaurants rated their own food security as "excellent" or "good".

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Someone needs to get Bret Stephens a stepladder so he can climb down from being so far up his own asshole

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does print media have the equivalent of the Razzies?

If they do, this article will be in the running.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

Brett Stephens moment

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

All this suggests that Mangione may prove to be a figure out of a Dostoyevsky novel — Raskolnikov with a silver spoon. It’s a familiar type. Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as Carlos the Jackal, was a lawyer’s son whose mother moved him to London before he went on to become an international terrorist. Osama bin Laden came from immense wealth. Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies can cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion.

Congratulations, you just identified pretty much the only subclass of people who have led successful working-class revolutions.

That's capital for ya.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] xorollo@leminal.space 5 points 4 days ago

When Mom doesn't understand the vibe. "No, we have working class hero at home."

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Geez, NYT, how’s the boot taste?

load more comments
view more: next ›