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[–] Fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Anyone who thinks this was about getting AI working was the idiot from the start, there still isn’t even a real use-case for it. This was always about funneling huge amounts of money from the government budget to a bunch of rich assholes. The outcome doesn’t matter at all here.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

there still isn’t even a real use-case for it

There are several real use cases for it, it's just that they're worth like ten bucks a month to me all together and OpenAI is running at a loss while charging... *checks notes* 200 dollars per month for their top tier model?

[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Venture capitalists using the US gov as their new marketing platform is a joke in it self.

What's next? Is the next White House briefing gonna be in a stadium, with laser show, motivational music and some ponce going on stage to hype people up?

Griftonomics has reached the upper levels, y'all.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago

Exactly. Just look at Intel and the CHIPS Act.

[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why is there no real use-case for it? But what about disinformation?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

And making starving artists’ lives even more unlivable. And taking human creativity and joy from humans.

While destroying the environment. It’s so efficient.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

So, basically the military industrial complex (which liberals support!) but with less genocide? Don't get me wrong, I hate Trump and Republicans are clearly the greater evil, but liberals have helped conservatives funnel trillion of dollars in public assets to the 1% for decades. It was under Bill Clinton that the internet, which was publically funded and publicly built, was given to the 1%. So to me, this is just more of the same: capitalist politicians stealing from us to make the 1% wealthier.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

How was the Internet given to the 1% under Clinton? And people gave it to the tech companies. Internet was supposed to be a bunch of independent sites. But it is easier to just go to a few.

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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Deepseek api is down today - probably a result of their viral success recently..

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 1 points 3 days ago

I heard they are under ddos attack.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 167 points 5 days ago (2 children)

most of that 'hundreds of billions' isn't going to go towards the tech or infrastructure, it's gonna go to people. a very small number of specific individuals.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 44 points 5 days ago (7 children)

correct, US taxpayer is being fleeced so some parasites can live their best lives.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Incorrect. They can already do that without more money.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

correct.

hell, i could live my 'best' life off of musk's 'sofa cushion' money:

$2.5m is more than enough for me to live on just using investment proceeds--in perpetuity.

$2.5m to him (with ~ $436b) is the equivalent of fifty-seven cents to someone with $100k (in the bank, investments, retirement, home equity, etc). now, i don't have $100k, not even close. just using it as an example here. my equivalent would be more like half a cent.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

They're mentally ill IMO. Like that old person hoarding vacuum cleaners, diapers, dogfood, etc.

The most infuriating thing is that for them it's just a number, for society it stifles innovation and wellbeing.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

But then none of them will get to claim that he’s the first trillionaire.

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Well, I suspect that most of the money will be used to acquire or costume natural resources, like water and power.

Individuals become enriched because their share holdings are worth more.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 113 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is beautiful how the US is never short on cash for state aid to enrich some owners.

But god forbid plebs ask for a good train, that's communism!

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Socialism for giant corporations: 😎🦅🇺🇸

Socialism for common people: 😡🚫🤷‍♂️

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[–] Tablaste@linux.community 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Explain how good trains will help our precious CEOs?

Unless you mean a private train line paid with government funds. Now we're talking!

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Necessity is the mother of invention."

What you're likely seeing here is innovation similar to the early tech sector. The hardware limitation (no Nvidia chips) means different (usually more complex) solutions are needed.

These solutions usually require a deep understanding of a specific area of mathematics, and expertise in coding. The person making it normally has to be heavily invested, since it still eats a lot of hours.

I often joke, the mathematician who finds a faster algorithm for matrix operations is sitting on a billion dollar idea.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And that mathematician won't see the profits for that faster algorithm and you will never hear their name - shits been happening in tech for decades

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

As a mathematician who has worked in tech, this I am very much aware of XD

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Guys listen up, every deepseek model comes with a dedicated chinese spy, who will log all your data and send it back to CCP who will use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization.

Instead we should use Freedom© models from OpenAI (side note if deepseek is so "open" how come they don't have open in their name huh?) even if OpenAI don't show their reasoning, they only do this cuz they want to protect us and they stand for our values.

They cost 100x more only because they are fighting for our Freedom and Freedom doesn't come cheap, Freedom doesn't have a price, Freedom requires our sacrifice.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

use it to plot the destruction of the western civilization

Peaks around at the state of Western Civilization

Boots up another copy of DeepSeek

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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

First paragraph is something I believe some people will say unironically.

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah obviously we've completely lost the plot a long time ago. Nobody even remembers when tech was bands of ragtag nerds making something out of nothing. Now they are the rich whose only purpose to is extract more wealth. Tech what? Who even knows anymore.

That includes the average tech workers. If that angers you then you're lost too.

Nobody has noticed that there's more bragging about compensation than accomplishments. It used to be the other way around. Nerds eagerly showing off to anyone who will listen about whatever thing they cooked up. It's been this way for the past long time long before this LLM AI era.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, give me a /technology/ sub that speaks about technology (have you heard about the esp-8266? Did you know a A4988 can steer a NEMA from a Raspberry pi? And even The 6 gen SSD can move X GB/s, what is the fastest quad core under 100$?) and not about funding and drama.

Or am I out of touch with reality :-) ?

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Shameless self promotion:

!hardware@lemmy.world

We of course focus on hardware and do include tech-adjacent business/public policy news, but we do cover ESP8266, PCI-E 6 development and that recently released ~$100 AMD CPU.

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[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

It's because this wave of tech overlords rode in on the coattails of the actual smart group. No one in this new group has actual built/coded/designed anything good. Everything they actual get involved with is garbage. Musk Cyber truck and Zuck metaverse as two examples. Bezos isn't even the CEO of Amazon anymore, and he had pretty much be letting Andy Jassy run AWS/Amazon for close to 2 decades anyway.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 74 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The US is getting owned by China left and right, but sure lets focus on abusing minorities, women, LGBTQ+, and the poor instead of investing on actually making America great. Whatever.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored [gay, trans, Hispanic, etc ] man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Maybe they try to imitate china on those topics?

[–] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Of course it's faster & cheaper when it's being censored & can't access half of human history because the fucking ccp finds it offensive.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As opposed to reddit censoring Israel genociding Palestine and Luigi ?

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[–] raker@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The model itself is probably not censored. The censorship comes on top. Preliminary tests already show how this can be circumvented.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (7 children)

If censorship would make it cheaper then surely it wouldn't be that much cheaper than OpenAI. Different things are being censored and blocked but surely, your suggestion is a bit silly.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Again, this is all fucking stupid. China is giving this shit away for free to absolutely own the US for spending money on stupid fucking things like this.

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[–] Breve@pawb.social 23 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Late stage capitalism has now created mega corporations that no longer profit off their innovation and quality, but merely off manipulation and exploitation of their mind-boggling amounts of capital. They now must crush all competition using authoritarian means because competition is now their biggest weakness.

Capitalism is well and truely dead, and corporations and conservatives are the ones who killed it. They want to remove the ladder of success that got them there.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago

We're Fiscally RESPOSIBLE!

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

well I mean the USA's president is a scammer so I am not surprised he is involved in stuff where scammers are abundant nowadays like crypto and AI

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (8 children)

The Chinese model has chain of thought that u can see. The model when asked to talk about chinas atrocities will go through a chain of though process outlining all the atrocities then conclude its not allowed to tell u. Cool technology tho I'm just waiting for a dolphin fine tuning.

[–] SamboT@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah all the info is there and something switches it over to the generic response.

So fucked.

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