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From Jez Corden. Further supporting the idea that the next Xbox is just a PC with a custom shell, which is about the only way a new Xbox makes sense anyway.

EDIT: Also from Jez Corden, Xbox handheld coming later this year.

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why do they want Microsoft to overhaul the controller? There’s literally no reason to, and the way they’re writing it really does just read as “because I want something different.“They’ve stuck with the same design since 360 more or less with small changes for a reason. It’s a fantastically designed controller

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gyro support wouldn't hurt.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Love that for others but I never use it except for Mario Galaxy with my kid lol

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did Mario Galaxy use gyroscopic controls? I thought it just used the IR sensor. If I'm correct, these are two different things. If you've played Splatoon with the gyro controls, you might see the benefit. Alternately, you can do this with Steam input on just about anything if you have a controller with the feature.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Switch version (3D all stars) uses gyroscopic controls. No IR/light bar and such .

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gotcha. It still might not be the best sample set for getting a feel for what the controls have to offer, if you have the means to give it a try in other games. I think it's better at aiming/shooting than the right analog stick has ever been.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

The Nintendo Wii used gyroscopic controls (first gen original controllers only had accelerometers. The Wii Motion Plus add-on added gyroscopes, but later controllers integrated both into a single unit). The IR bar was just for the Wii controller to figure out which detection was towards the TV.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

IKR????
Xbox execs run from Gyro like it personally killed their mother

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

I just fucking want HE joysticks.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Gyroscope and back buttons would be nice. Maybe even a touch sensitive stick like the steam deck has. I like the shape and layout of the Xbox controllers, but they really lag behind feature wise.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If we got a Gyroscope on Xbox, then all major controllers would have it - allowing for the possibility of cross platform games where people can use gyro ironsights to aim. That would be awesome.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The elite controller has customizable back buttons, which are awesome.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well I've had three of thier controllers die due to stick shift so there seems to be a fucking reason to me.

[–] Bruhman482@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A windows PC with a custom shell is surprisingly good for gaming. I modified my gaming machine to skip sign in, windows explorer, and a multitude of other services so it boots straight into steam big picture. My Epic, EA, and gamepass games are automatically added to Steam with proper artwork. Feels like SteamOS but with some nice things from windows like working anricheat and lossless scaling support.

[–] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

How do you skip sign in? That’s the single worst feature in windows.

[–] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the fuck we're 5 years into this console gen? They didn't even start releasing the real games yet. I can't think of a single Xbox exclusive titles and ps5 has what, astro bot and the friggin 17th FF7 remake?

[–] moakley@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

PS5 had Spider-Man 2.

For Xbox Series X there's Starfield.

For the generation as a whole, it was worth upgrading for Baldur's Gate 3.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xbox lost the console wars and is retreating to PC. This makes sense

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No love lost with Xbox/m$ but this is going to make Sony even more insufferable lol I can’t believe they had the stones to release the pro and basically go “it’ll do 4K60 for real this time we promise.”

Imagine paying $200-$300 more for the promise of what the old machine was supposed to do. Baffling. They even tried to say the original PS5 would run 8K!

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sony's not doing great right now either. They're either matching or several million units behind where they were with the PS4 at the same point in the console generation; given that their closest competition has been decimated, that's not great for them. They don't make games as quickly as they used to, which means they don't make as many as they used to, and their margins are slimmer on their successes while the failures like Concord and PSVR2 hurt more. Both of those consoles are rapidly headed toward a future that only looks like personal computers for high-end gaming. Nintendo is at least mostly immune to this for at least the Switch 2 generation.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Retreating to PC makes sense, because PC won the console war.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

PC will never “win” a console war because it lacks the plug and play convenience of consoles.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tell that to PC's growth and consoles' decline. Plus the new Xboxes mentioned in this very article are seeking to be exactly that, much like what the Steam Deck does today. It will play PC games but will be called an Xbox.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay I will.

PC isn’t a part of the console war and therefore can’t “win.”

Happy? I told it.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If consoles cease to exist as we know them because they just became PCs, then what does that mean for a console war?

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why is there even a console war in the first place? Who really cares these days? Just get what you want.

Me? I’m lazy and don’t want to put the effort into building a PC or worrying about optimization, viruses, etc. So I just get a gaming box to plug in and play.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like I'm never going to have a reason to buy a current generation console.

[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure why people are acting surprised about this. The generations usually have been between 5-7 years. It will already have been five years this upcoming November. So 2027 sounds about right.