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Never again, bye Microsoft Windows π Hi GNU/Linux my new friend.
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Canβt upgrade because my 4 years old mobo is apparently too old (havenβt checked out the workarounds yet). Installed Linux Mint to give it a try and I am positively surprised so far.
I thought I read some time ago that Windoze 10 would be the last version of Windoze ever...
i remember it as "the last version of windows you'll ever need" and they were absolutely correct.
Well, it can be the last version of Windows for you. π
Ubuntu is nice. I use it daily. Others in my family too. And there are other options too. I hear Mint is nice though I haven't used it much.
Give it some thought. π
Yeah I remember thr same thing. Everything else was suppose to be a package update.
But back-end technology and usage expectations change, and there's a limit to what front-end changes an existing user tolerates. That was never a promise they could keep.
It has lasted a really long time, though. I don't decry 11 existing. I'm upset they're sunsetting 10 without giving us a chance to wait for 11 to get better, let alone for 'oops we fixed the fuckups' W12.
I'm using 10+ years old hardware, Microsoft has already told me I can't upgrade, followed by several messages asking me to upgrade...
In other news, Linux Mint works nice and I just need to check Protondb to get Warframe running at frames per second and not seconds per frame
if you're on Linux mint, check to see if mint itself is out of date. When I installed mint, the only install media I could find was 2 versions behind. Getting to the current version fixed my warframe problems.
Already on Linux. And proud.
I think I will switch to Linux, possibly dual boot with Win 11 just in case there are games I can't play on Linux.
I finally committed to Linux at the end of last year. Enough is working to make it preferable to Windows now. I'm still having a lot of bugs, and it's costing quite some time. But at least my computer is mine again. No more telemetry, ads, and UIs that treat me like a toddler. No more updates forced onto me instead of being done whenever I want it.
Me too. Most things just work for me BTW. Laptop battery went from 4 hours to 10+, with better performance too. But most important for me is privacy, which is way better/easier to manage in Linux.
Ironically my laptop, which has been Linux-only since 2015 or something, has finally stopped working properly. The dedicated GPU (NVIDIA Quadro K1100M) no longer has working drivers with the kernel from Ubuntu 24.04. Then again, it wouldn't run windows 11 either probably.
I want to move to Linux, but I need to be able to use the VPN service my work uses and I'm just not sure how to get it working on Linux. I should just dual boot.
Without prodding too much into what VPN you work uses
Most VPN solutions run on linux just fine, even Microsoft PPTP VPN solution works fine. I would probably check with your IT department what protocol they use and any connection caveats (like machine certificates used for authentication) and look into the different VPN solutions (some examples; WireGuard and OpenVPN are very well supported, IPSec (libreswan or strongswan are options here) depends on setup, PPTP/L2TP should work with most setups (I have to admin I havn't touched those enough), vpnc works with Cisco base IPsec setups and openconnect works with most SSL VPN connection)
It's Watchguard. Though looking at their site, it seems like there might be support that I wasn't able to find last time I looked into this. Definitely want to dual boot at some point. I've got a Surface Book 3 though, and I know it needs special kernel stuff to get working properly, so I'd almost rather just wait until my boss retires and everyone's out of a job to dive into Linux. Easier than finding spare time in my life. Living the dream
I have not any experience with WatchGuard, but it from some quick searching around it seems to not be far from the easiest to set up for linux. dual-booting is probably the easier solution.
I hope you find a solution to what sounds like not the best life situation, and may you have an otherwise have a nice Linux journey.
Sorry for that, it gets hard sometimes when I start accidentally living the examined life for a second
Dual-booting was how I first got into Linux; it truly leaves open the ability to keep everything you're worried about not having.
What's the VPN?
I run Fedora KDE now, but Iβm going to keep my Windows 10 install on Windows 10.
How are you finding it?
No complaints about Fedora KDE specifically. I've had it on my spare laptop since version 30 or so. Desktop is on 41 now. The only "issues" I've had running this full-time is lack of support for Fidelity Active Trader Pro (which kinda sucks anyway), I haven't been able to make my bluetooth shipping label printer work yet, and I haven't gotten my Logi MX Keys / Master S mouse working as it works in Logi Options (on windows or mac) to switch over to my work mac as intended. Otherwise, I prefer it to other distros I've used.
Thanks for the feedback - currently weighing up disros (was thinking mint, but a few folks have praised fedora KDE based distros now).
My Windows 10 PC's only function at this point is to play FFXIV in my living room, so I'm not super worried about viruses or anything.
But maybe eventually I'll switch to Linux on that box and do that weird set-up to get FFXIV running there.
Already switched to Nobara. Only have Windows dual boot because Space Engineers Multiplayer doesn't seem to work on Linux.
Been perfectly happy with Nobara. Windows is dead to me and I'm free from my League addiction.
Why is Bill Gates in the picture? lol
43% of Steam is still on Windows
10 with support...
Seems not so many.
And if they are ending in 7 month why bother.
Just put the lin
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I won't be doing pretty much anything about it. I have 10 pro, I don't really give a shit about what Microsoft thinks I should do. My computer is behind a firewall, and bluntly, it'll be a while before the security issues become such a problem that I need to go and upgrade.
However. I already did the legwork. I went out and upgraded the hardware TPM 1.2 in my system to TPM 2.0, and I picked up some (relatively cheap) Windows 11 pro product keys. I can upgrade if I want.
I also have access to W10 LTSC, so I can always pivot to that if I need to.
I get the security and other concerns with Windows 10. I do, but the windows 11 changes, to me seem like they're changes for the sake of things being changed. Windows 10's user experience was already quite good, apart from the fact that every feature release seemed to have the settings moved to a different location (see above about making changes for the sake of making changes). IMO, as a professional sysadmin and IT support, the interface and UX changes have made Windows, as a product, worse; it is by far the worst part of the upgrade process and I don't know why they thought any of it was a good idea. I also hate what M$ has done with printers, but I won't get started on that right now.
For all the nitpicking I could do, Windows was, for all intents and purposes, exactly what it needed to be, between Windows 7 and 10. There hasn't been any meaningful progress in the OS that's mattered since x86-64 support was added. Windows 10 32 bit was extremely rare, I don't think I ever saw it (where W7 was a mixed bag of 32/64 bit). Having almost everyone standardized on 64 bit, and Windows 10, gave a predictability that is needed in most businesses. The professional products should not follow the same trends as the home products. If they want to put AI shovelware and ads into the home products, fine. Revamp the vast majority of the control panel into the settings menu, sure. But leave the business products as-is. By far the most problems that people have with Windows 11 that I hear about, relate to how everything changes/looks different, and/or having problems navigating the "new look" or whatever the fuck.
Microsoft: you had a good thing with Windows 10, and you pissed it all away when you put out the crap that is Windows 11.
Stop moving shit around, making controls less useful, and stop making it look like the UX was designed by a 10 year old. Fuck off.
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Just imagine 43 % market share in the next hardware survey.
And 25% of users in Asia still use Windows 7. People are going to stay on the OS for as long as possible.
If only we had a reason to upgrade.
Instead, we have many reasons not to.
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Ill bet right before the deadline, they will magically make TPM optional, even though they said they wouldn't.
too late already did switch to linux :3
Just bought a laptop and put bazzite on it to try it out and figure out if I can do all the things I want to do on it. If that all works out I'll be switching my desktop over.
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