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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago

It is paid by consumers, not Apple. Other phone companies will raise prices as well to increase their profits, since iPhone prices will set a new high price.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 minutes ago

Such smol govment

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Killing Biden's CHIPs act certainly didn't help that cause.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He will kill and reinatate it to sell it as his oqn doing.
Obviously guided by his counselers and consultants.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh, like NAFTA!

[–] tartarin@lemm.ee 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is actually a real socialist or even communist policy. The State controlling the businesses.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It is authoritarian. Communist system devolve to authoritarianism because it is a natural progression (easy to do). Socialists can, but a good democratic political structure makes it harder.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Don't tell all the tankies.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Tim Apple could just buy him a fucking plane and be done with it. And that would open up some interesting opportunities, nahmean?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It’s what I’d do if I were an ambitious, resource hoarding, ass pimple billionaire.

It’s obvious the way to Trump’s heart is to tell him he’s pretty and give him something .

[–] Vari@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

It would take MINIMUM 10 years to even come close to like 60% manufactured in US. And that’s assuming the US upends the entire global tech industry by coming even kind of close to TSMC’s chip manufacturing tech.

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You can know the impact of what building in the US would be by looking at Purism. They sell a Linux phone for $800. If you want the same phone built in the US, they charge $2000.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

It really depends on what Trump means by " built in the US". It won't be that big of a jump if Apple is just assembling them there. If every component has to come from the US it's likely impossible.

Apple is vertically integrated in a way many companies are not. It would be bad for them for sure but they already have really high profit margins. They could eat the cost and assemble in the US, but they won't because they are already a velban good.

[–] TorJansen@sh.itjust.works 61 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I see the problem here. He's talking to Tim Cook, who's CEO of some cooking company. He needs to talk to Tim Apple.

[–] ksh@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I want to elect Pine for the next CEO

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 3 points 2 hours ago

He's actually cooking apple pies. Or is it called baking? Is it Tim Bake?

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Who does he think he's talking to?

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

His subordinates, who else?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

Looks like Apple is balking at paying the required bribe.

[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Apple should just not sell them in the US then.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Profiteers foregoing the largest source of profit? Not likely.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Do it to everyone, I dare you. Nerds get heated. Please it will end sooner for him.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 79 points 6 hours ago (11 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

🫢

Bro really went off on him…

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Based on the numbers from Purism, it could be a lot more than 25% more expensive to manufacture everything in USA. Purims Librem 5 costs 799 $, while the made-in-America version costs 1999 $. That's roughly a 2.5x difference. Obviously, economies of scale play a role too but let's assume that the same factor applies to iPhones too. If so, the fanciest iPhone would cost about 4000 $.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

too lazy to check but does the "made in America" version have all its parts also made in America? coz i doubt it. if not, each and every part made outside the US would also get tariffed.

[–] Pzulu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

No, the US Purism phone is not 100% American.

They have a different supply chain for it where European manufacturers are used for some parts.

But some things are only made in China. So I think what was said is Purism source some of the raw materials for these items and have them made to a higher tolerance for reliability.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

It's because Donald can't envisage the supply chain for anything more complex than a Trump flag or a MAGA hat.

In his mind, housewives can be knocking iPhones out in Bumfuck, Mississippi.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Excuse me, sir. There is no town in Mississippi called "Bumfuck". That town is firmly within the boundaries of Iowa.

Mississippi would never stoop to the level of Iowa in having Bumfuck, Iowa. Mississippi is more elegant in its nomenclature. Thus, if you wish to make a point about a town in the middle of nowhere in Mississippi, please respect Mississippi by referring to such a town as Cousin-Hump, Mississippi. Thank you.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

Fun you should bring up his merch because literally all of it is Chinese or Indian produced.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And they'd still need to maintain their non-US factories due to the retaliatory tariffs many countries are putting on US products.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We don't even have silicon availability. I don't mean chips or printed boards, I mean processed quarts crushed into powder.

We would have to start opening strip mines and building massive furnaces and crushers and expanding railways. It's just not feasible.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

and expanding railways

Do it.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

Rest assured if they fix the rail system or will be to put us in cattle cars on a rather unfun one way trip.

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Tarriffs are an articulable cost that can be direclt passed on to the consumer. Income taxes would be something more manageable and the company would need to figure out what to pay. But, Republicans increasing taxes on their donors? Ha!

[–] socsa@piefed.social 38 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

How long ago?

[–] superminerJG@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Trump on his way to make Android phones more popular (they're not as highly tariffed)

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