Didn’t they update Teams to a whole new platform recently and it turned out to just be a webpage rendered by edge?
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That’s just the desktop client. They haven’t updated the mobile app and VDI versions and those were suffering problems too. It’s something on the backend.
Just azure being azure
Was it ever anything else? 4 years ago it was already a wrapped webapp.
This was last year, but they dropped electron for their in house chromium thing
https://petri.com/microsoft-teams-performance-boost-march/
So yeah, whatever this outage is has nothing to do with their webview stuff
I mean that’s not really any different from slack
Yes it is. Slack works.
Fair. Teams suck.
Oh yea. It's been out years now and still feels like alpha software imo. It wouldn't even be understandable if it was built as FOSS by 3 dudes.
The problem is that they combined three different pieces of software into one cheaply.
So it’s big, clunky and doesn’t often work.
Apparently they are trying to fix it, but we will see
Meanwhile, Skype* works well.
(*Not msComm/lync renamed Skype. We never mean that unless we say skype4biz or its codename Hot garbage)
Teams was electron app from the beginning, so basically a web page rendered in chromium
Really? Haven't had the chance to check it yet because IT doesn't let our machines do the switch to the new one, but I don't know how to feel about apps/programs doing that more and more...
I think the old one was only a "website". The new one does feel better and faster (except, it sometimes crashes while in a meeting (lol)) But don’t know if it is "real" app or just JavaScript
Edit: if you go to Task-Manager, you see, that it is like one app and multiple „MS edge WebView2“
Yeah it’s a web app with some native tweaks for performance and local APIs
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/
Mine has crashed every day during meetings now and 3 times it took the audio driver with it so I had to do a full restart before being able to re join
😄my coworker had this as well just yesterday, I believe, he had to react using chat in the meeting, lol, such great software.
The old one and the new one are both available as a web site and a desktop app.
Yea, but the desktop app is mostly just a webApp. You can imagine it like that: teams is a themed edge browser, where you can only load specific websites (like the tabs in your teams, all the office apps within teams and all the chats are each website, so to say.
Yes, and that's true of both the old and new versions. There are a few differences, but for the most part they're the same, so you'll generally see changes roll out simultaneously in the desktop and web versions.
That's why I was so productive yesterday! No one was bugging me on Teams.
Azure quality. :)
Quality azured
There's a reason we call it "unsure".
No wonder I got so much work done yesterday....
"We're investigating an issue in which users may be unable to access Microsoft Teams or features within North America, Canada, and Brazil," Microsoft said via the company's official Microsoft 365 status account on X (formerly Twitter).
A Lovecraftian horror, that sentence.
What's hilarious about it too is they have a teams/o365 server status site https://portal.office.com/servicestatus
But they seemingly don't use it, because it showed everything is fine throughout the entire outage, maybe it requires Teams to update lmao
Imagine showing the headline to someone 10 years ago
How the mighty have fallen
Typical Microsoft. For awhile Teams was working. Maybe it wasn’t anyone’s idea of superstar software but it worked well enough, and integration with O365 made it tolerable. Then they decide to push their updated app to everyone and now it sucks donkey balls.
I lost spell check in the new version! Others still have it, so I'm not sure what happened. I even toggled spell check off and on in the settings.
The design behind the actual Teams portion is so backwards. Take private chat conversation flow, put that into Team channels, make threads the exception not the norm.
Great news!
The Dacia Sandero!
We use Teams at work and we are very happy with it. Maybe it’s because I haven’t used other meeting software besides Facetime so I don’t understand why everyone hates it at Lemmy.
Because Lemmy has a hard-on for Linux and FOSS so loves to shit on Microsoft. I'm personally, albeit slowly, moving over to Linux but it's not been a straight forward ride that people make out that it is. I often hit an issue and just reboot into Windows to get what I need done without having to spend hours troubleshooting.
It's a pain to switch between accounts. It eats up a ton of CPU if I use it through my browser (unless I use it in Firefox). If I use it in Firefox I can't get video/voice calls or join up on meetings.
On a mobile device (iOS): It randomly logs me out (more like it will timeout if I haven't opened the app recently). Notifications aren't reliable. If I join a meeting with some other group as a "guest", I can go back to view my active chat, but then I can only hear audio from the meeting and can't get back to see what's happening in the meeting unless I leave the room and come back.
There's more, but this is just off the top of my head.
This was yesterday tho. Dangit
A coworker of mine is experiencing issues in Germany as well (error messages that I've never seen). Wonder if they're related to this.
No. Not M$ Teams was hit. All the users were hit.
Keep going hackers. Do whatever it takes to take that shitty application offline for good. My division is toying with the idea of removing Slack and replacing it with MS Teams, and I dread the day the idiots making the decisions go through with it. Because of course they will.
Ugh you guys still use slack? So jealous. Would love to migrate back