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This Tesla Robotaxi demo video is a mess.

Watch as the car makes a left turn from the wrong lane, ignoring a red light. The safety operator steps in, and the car comes to a stop… right in the middle of the intersection.

Eventually, it completes the illegal turn after blocking traffic for 45 seconds, which raises the question, what exactly is the safety operator there for?

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[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 143 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If the most relevant way to describe someone is "influencer". Then everyone influenced by them is a moron. They are just a mega moron. It's a safety hazard any of these vehicles are allowed on the road. Let alone, driving autonomously with no actual intelligence on board.

[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Paid shill for deathmobiles.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 27 points 1 week ago

IKR? Shades of Ralph Wiggum.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If the most relevant way to describe someone is “influencer”. Then everyone influenced by them is a moron.

I think Hank Green described it as a term marketers came up with. So, yeah it tracks.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I generally agree with hank

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny that nobody who follows influencers refers to themselves as an "influencee".

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another word for an individual: 'data point'

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 71 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That sounds more life threatening than impressive.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a death threat doesn't leave an impression, what will?

[–] killea@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Impressive in the most literal sense. Indeed.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A truck ran over me

It left an impression

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It didn't just "Run a red light", it downright attempted a left turn in a lane meant to drive straight through. They're just lucky that the incoming traffic was stopped when it happened or they might have been t-boned.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How come nobody honk? Are they used to this nonsense already?

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What exactly does honking accomplish though?

[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Waking up the safety operator perhaps.

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[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not related to self driving, but other shitty car design.

I had a Nissan with a CVT before it was widely known they were garbage. I hit the brakes to avoid someone that ran a red, and the CVT went in to some protection mode and left me and my family stuck in the middle of the intersection for 2 entire light cycles before it'd move again.

Dealership just kept saying it's fine and it was protecting the CVT from damage after going from throttle to brake quickly. I don't give a fuck about the CVT, I care about the squishy bits inside the cabin.

After it did that again and the power windows stopped working the same day, I traded it in for a Mazda with a proper transmission. 248k miles later it's still great.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Damn shame that CVTs are so janky because it's the only non-manual transmission I'd consider. But reliable CVTs that don't do fake shifts are hard to come by.

The eCVT in my wife's Ford C-Max is an absolute dream. It's so smooth and helps the car take off much faster from a stop than my 350Z, despite having 100 less BHP. Nothing beats the feeling you get from immediate torque when you don't have to wait for the revs to build. Problem is that it also has a 75% failure rate after 100K miles. She's at 120K now and it's still going strong, so she was in the lucky 25%.

[–] foo@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

I had a Honda with a CVT and it was pretty bulletproof. Never skipped a beat.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What's the reasoning behind CVTs being the only non-manual transmissions you'd consider?

They lack the nice feel of manuals and the reliability of modern automatics. Have you tried an 8HP or 9G-Tronic? Either one will last you a long time and shift so smooth during relaxed driving that you can't tell it's going through gears.

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[–] markz@suppo.fi 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find it impressive that nobody honked.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Probably because robotaxi is written on the side of it. Clearly a warning to other drivers, to avoid accidents.
It's like having that "learner" sign most countries have on cars for people learning to drive.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Or every bad driver in California. I see those stickers on cars being driven by 50 year olds.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know a 50 year old can be a student driver, right?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

God, my wife right there. Started driving at 50 and she scares the shit out of me.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

I mean… most people I know with learner’s permits don’t have their own cars. It’s probably their parents’ car and somebody just forgot to take the sign off while the learners aren’t driving or it’s permanently adhered.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That 50-year-old is still shaking from letting their kid drive to school, and is now going to work where they'll dread going back to pick their kid up and let them drive home. Or maybe a few more practices in empty parking lots first... Which are fucking hard to find by the way, they're all full of cars!

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But I would 100% be allowing it to hit me if we are going slow enough that my car could be damaged enough and then sue the shit out of Tesla.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks to whoever wrote "raises the question" instead of the commonly used yet incorrect "begs the question".

[–] dyc3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm curious about this distinction. What's the difference between "raises" and "begs"?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

Raising a question means what you think it does. Bringing up a question which is a natural consequence or follow-up to a previously stated point.

The original meaning of begging the question is quite different and is a form of circular argument where the premise of an argument already assumes its conclusion is correct.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

"Begging the Question" is a logical fallacy that's completely different than a thing raising a question.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is impressive how bad it is.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They also really need additional sensors. Elon is keep saying that self driving cars only need cameras. But cameras can be blinded or also make mistakes. Hence good self driving cars should atleast have sonar.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

As a RADAR guy I have to say they need RADAR, but I might be biased. I suppose LIDAR would be nice too. There's something called sensor fusion where you combine the measurements of different sensors, ideally using different technologies to get better measurements.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

WhyNotBoth.gif

And radar is dirt cheap. Toss a radar module (or two!) under the hood, watch as your cars stop plowing into stuff in the frontal plane of movement. It's automation so simple that even Hyundai gets it right.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And radar is dirt cheap.

Even by the middle of WWII, radar had been made so cheap that they (the US at least) were putting radar devices into artillery shells. The idea that 80+ years later radar is cost-prohibitive for fucking cars is ludicrous.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Respect for the capital letters

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I like that homeboy was just like "Have a safe ride" and dude responds " we will" or some shit. Like you (tesla) just stuck us in the middle of an intersection making an illegal turn after missing where to pick us up by a block and we've been in the car for less than a minute. Don't tell us to have a safe trip, promise me we are going to get somewhere safely at that point.

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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago

Beta testing on the public roads is always a good idea. Privatize the profits and socialize the road hazards and deaths.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How much was the influencer paid to say this?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can be impressive and also still not be very good.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Impressive, I have always wanted to die in a car accident thanks Tesla!

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Hey you know what, lets just throw a million or more of these things into the real world right now. The sooner we can rack up the body count the sooner we can get grifters to scream into the zeitgeist about government control or whatever. Idk let tesla fuck up their value and live in infamy

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So I think the only button he operator has was the kill switch. Instead the operator should have a second button to report an error or something, without causing the car to do a full stop.

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