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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Use a VPN. Even if the current environment of aggressive puritan censorship weren’t happening, everyone should use one.

Here are two of the best.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

Mullvad is the best.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Jerry@feddit.online 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just mentioning that Mozilla VPN uses Mullvad, and with their Firefox extension you can exclude individual websites from VPN protection or set preferred server locations for specific sites. So you can stay on a UK server for UK banking sites but switch to a different country server for a social site.

Only works on Windows for now. But maybe useful given this situation.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 19 hours ago

Wow, today I learned, that's handy.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Will need an alternative if you need to port forward, but for general use you can't fault them

[–] haych@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago

ProtonVPN has Port Forwarding, it works great.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

windscribe $1/month.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago
[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.torproject.org/download/

Probably a good idea for things other than Lemmy, too, the way that things are going.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 7 points 1 day ago

Theoretically if you would host your own Lemmy/PieFed server then you would be able to access everything (as long as you host it outside of the UK I guess). And then you could keep being moderator on those communities with your new account on your own instance.

That only helps you out though, if the communities were UK specific ones and other people from the UK meet to participate then there is no other way than moving them to a UK friendly instance.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What happened? Is it the instances fault or UK's?

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 67 points 1 day ago (3 children)

UK is implementing law for age verification on nsfw content, that's the jist of it.

Some services are choosing to simply not serve the UK rather than deal with the faff and/or the privacy concerns. lemmy.zip where I am from is one of them.

Blame lies squarely with the UK gov & Online Safety Act. It's a shit law made to pander to the 'think of the children' types that are incapable of parenting, also coming with the bonus of grift and doxxing concerns by companies that move in to provide the service.

I don't blame any site operator that chooses to simply not play. VPN goes on, normal service resumes.

[–] juliorapido@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“It's a shit law made to pander to the *'think of the children'* types that are incapable of parenting”

This.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 7 points 23 hours ago

Whenever someone says that there law is to protect:

  • the children
  • old people
  • the vulnerable
  • ..

You know that it's full of hidden shit.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UK has always been a nanny state. Surprised it took them so long.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 5 points 1 day ago

I lived there for 10 years from 2000, it seemed to come uo every year or two whil I was there - fuck them

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also several hundred pages long. Fair few web forums are closing because of it if they are UK hosted too.

It would be interesting to get a legal opinion on what about it actually impacts lemmy instances tbh. Obviously one option is to go "lol fuck off" if the UK complain and you are not in the UK.

[–] Jerry@feddit.online 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They can notify the hosting company that the server is violating UK law, the registrars, and payment services. This is the fear for sites not hosted in the UK. There are inter-country agreements to support civil actions.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Doesn't that sort of thing take quite a bit of time though? And they need to find out about it too.

That said I don't know if the free and open internet has much time left.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If the surface web gets bad enough, there is still the dark web.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

Maybe it's too tinfoil hat but I worry they will push for a whitelisted internet at some point.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt the US government would look fondly on a US-based service taking down a US-based social media site because Ofcom complained to them about them not adhering to local laws. Especially under this administration. It would be seen as foreign interference. And for that reason, I very much doubt Ofcom would ever do that. They'd just block the site violating OSA.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Quite a few have suggested the OSA is intended to further centralise the internet. Looking at the impact so far and they are not wrong...

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean "centralise"? Into larger websites?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

Big companies can follow the vast regulations while small ones are pushed out.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The EU is also adopting similar regulations.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you talking about chat control?

It was rejected once, and will be rejected again. At least if people mobilize a bit against it. There's a long way from Commission proposal to law.

Equating the proposal of a law with the adaptation of it is highly misleading. The EU is a complex institution where different bodies are pulling in different directions.

[–] chameleon@fedia.io 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_1339

Everything regarding enforcement is early stages but what they're aiming for is much more specific than chat control and is based on existing wording in the Digital Services Act.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

The Commission has no law-making power on its own. They can open proceedings before the Court of Justice of the European Union to verify compliance with existing laws, or they propose legislation that will have to go through other EU institutions (the Parliament, which is elected, and the Council, which consists of representatives from Member State governments).

The job of the Commission is to propose laws. The job of the other institutions is to reject these laws if they are stupid. The Commission opening an investigation does not mean that the EU is "adopting similar regulations" - it is an extremely long way away from that.

And even the Commission itself is likely to contain a wide spectrum of opinions within it - it tends to be a strange political constellation. So until there's a Commission proposal (as happened with chat control) there's really nothing. After the Commission proposal, we need to make sure it's stopped by pressuring national governments (Council) and elected MEPs (Parliament).

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they are talking about age verification for something like porn ^^'!

For the chatcontrol thing, it's only a matter of when and not if.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would like to know which EU law it is they are takling about, aa they proclaim pretty boldly that the Union is adapting "similar Regulations". I follow EU politics somewhat closely and I have no idea what they are talking about.

The Commission has published some guidelines and recommendations, which are as legally binding as a fart.

As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

On EU age verification: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification

As for chat control: With that attitude, probably.

That attitude isn't the problem.

Look around on Lemmy. People are saying that the EU needs to enforce its law against Big Tech. It must protect its citizens. It's about "our values". Blah blah blah...

When that happens, you immediately get age verification. Germany had a social media service called StudiVZ. It was forced to segregate minors to a separate service. American social media not doing that is an example of them not following our laws and our values (not mine, not sure whose).

These big corpos make big money by enabling pedos to groom children. We need to hold them accountable and force them to stop that! Does that make sense? Well, now you have to make Big Tech read private messages to search for suspicious activity. There's your chat control.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What exactly do you think a Commission blueprint is?

It's nothing but soft power and hardly even that, little more than just thinking out loud. It has no implications whatsoever unless member states decide they want to implement the ideas nationally, in which case it's on them. The Commission cannot implement EU law unilaterally.

As for chat contol, that's about banning true encryption. Very different from regulating big tech.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sure. And that is why I think chat control will happen.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To give you a concrete exemple, while it isn't directly relates to EU laws, France enforced age verification for pornsite to protect the children !

So it seems to me they are slowly, bit by bit, enforcing those stupid laws not EU wise, but country by country ^^!

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there's no guarantees against stupidity in the member states. That's easier to reverse than if it happens in an EU regulation.

This kind of misinformation is why people get confused and vote for right wing eurosceptic parties, which ironically tends to be the parties most eager to strip people's rights away.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 24 points 1 day ago

The UK enacted age verification, the instance said fuck that. So, more or less, the UK's fault.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UK, this is hitting basically all websites. Any site hosting adult content has to verify user ages for anyone in the UK, and instead of doing that many smaller sites are just geoblocking the UK. Easy to get around with a VPN, still absurd it’s happening.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

There is a lot more to it than just age verification for porn too. I do wonder what this will look like after several months and if they will push it or if the law just gets ignored in the end.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tunnelbear has a free 2GB a month one - not enough for a lot of use probably, but an easy to test if a paid VPN will do what you need.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want to be part of a bot net sure.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've not had any issues with them. It's a pretty user friendly VPN app, and having a small allowance you can test it with before buying is pretty handy. Most other VPNs you have to pay up before you can test them AFAIK.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The point is not about the app not working, the point is that many free VPN apps rent out your own IP address, often malicious.

Look for "residential proxy providers" and somehow these providers can offer you millions of IP addresses.

[–] hellequin67@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago

Windscribe also has 2Gb free or 10Gb free per month if you provide and email and let them spam you.