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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Citizens of the US are really screwed, with a pseudo-democracy where they can only choose between conservatives or fascists, apart from practically half of the population who show that Descartes was wrong, because they exist but they don't think.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 14 points 11 months ago

The US has never been a country that's good or fair. It's only very slowly gotten a little better through the sweat and blood of good people.

If we want it to get better it's going to be a lot of difficult and painstaking work.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago

show that Descartes was wrong, because they exist but they don’t think.

"A therefore B" doesn't imply "B therefore A"

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Biden sucks... but vote for him. I mean the two party system sucks, first passed the post sucks, gerrymandering sucks... but the republican party sucks even more. I'd rather have a dottering old liberal than an outright fascist, and at the same time the system won't be reformed because of an election cycle. People need to organise, get off their lazy butts. But since you ain't doing that, there's only one thing to do.

Vote Biden. Don't be dumb. It's like the only sane alternative, no matter how insane that sounds.

[–] Juno@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

You know, when Biden took office the capitol building had literally just been attacked by a violent mob who smeared shit on the walls. And we were still in covid-lockdowns, and gas was $4 a gallon, and Ukraine had just started getting attacked.

Idk why Biden gets so much shit, but given where he started, I think we are doing a damn fine job and our inflation numbers are much better than most of the rest of the world.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 8 points 11 months ago

If inflation is our metric, then Democrats have been in agreement with Republicans ever since the Nixon Shock.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People of Gaza are so lucky that it's the lesser of the two evils facilitating their genocide.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Yes, I honestly dread to think what Trump would have done.

Lessor of two evils sucks balls, but you can still minimise the damage at least.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you think that's any comfort to the Palestinians Biden is helping to genocide?

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What's that? Somebody thinks that a different president is going to stop the drones and bombings!? Like they're not tied up in deals?! Like if a third party candidate won the process would just magically stop?!?!

Bush made the bombs drop, Obama made the bombs drop, Trump made the bombs drop, Biden made the bombs drop... wtf do you think the next president will do? The CIA tells them what's what and that's it.

Vote Biden, or get a republican president. Your call.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The faster USA collapses, the faster a possibility would be created for tearing down the 2 party Deep State terrorist system, rebuilding America, and ushering in socialism without leftover crusty poisonous bread crumbs like Bernie Sanders.

It is better for a Republican to accelerate the process that Democrats will eventually lead to, regardless of the quality of copium Americans smoke.

[–] DeLift@feddit.nl 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vote Trump, for a brighter, socialist future!

Also, blood for the Blood God!

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Counterargument: If the democrats don't want to lose they should stop funding mass genocide.

[–] TwistedTurtle@monero.town 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair the GOP would happily fund it too

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hey, only if it doesn’t conflict with Putin’s goals.

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[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How can anyone think that Trump wouldn't support it. If anything, he would call the IDF a bunch of pussies for not bombing Gaza even harder.

[–] bobthened@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago

That's not the point. People aren't saying that they'd rather have Trump in charge. The point is things will never get better if everyone keeps unquestioningly giving their votes to the Democrats regardless of how little the democrats represent their interests. The only real way most people have of making a political party change is by withholding their votes until that party changes in order to regain the votes.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Trump would denounce Israel, even as a lie, to win the White House.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Your options:

  • Genocide overseas & decent domestic policies
  • Genocide overseas & Genocide domestically
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[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago (14 children)

I mean, that's a weird-ass AI prompt. But if fascism wins and you voted third party, yes - it's partly* your fault unless you're too stupid to understand how first past the post voting works.

*conditionals against massive fascist party majority states notwithstanding.

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[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

two things to consider

  • voting harder wont actually stop fascism, the nazis took power with 30% of the vote

  • not everyone gets a vote, myself included (not a citizen)

[–] Saganaki@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

Eh, 30% in a parliamentary system is effectively the majority.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] marxistsynths19@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would we continue doing the exact same thing that has been time and time again proven to be a cheap bandaid that never addresses the issues? Fuck that. We have to try different ways of making progress in this country or we’re fucked. We’re not really a democratic country anyway. None of our representatives actually fight and do what we ask of them. So why fall for it again?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bbbut we just need to buy time for [insert other thing that hasn't been working]!

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is so good, did you make it?

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used Dall-E to generate the individual elements and put them together in Paint.NET. AI couldn't understand the prompts I was using well enough to generate what I wanted.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 11 months ago

Lol cool. It reminds me of 2016 when I checked the Republican party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump. Then I checked the Democratic party website and on the Donate page the background was a picture of Trump but with a scary red hue.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So, here's a thought.

Instead of complaining, get active at a local level. Start doing shit, instead of complaining that other people should do shit. Be a local activist. Run for office. Work in person to persuade people. Get backing. Shake hands, kiss babies, meet people. And then? Vote for the best choices that you have.

If you want shit to change, you can't complain on-line, you have to get off your ass and do something.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Tried that, all I got for my trouble was a total disillusionment with the American voting public.

Americans, generally, do not care, and I can't convince them that they should.

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[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

So, what EXACTLY do you think is my purpose in creating propaganda like this post?

And why do you assume I am not doing more?

Is it projection?

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