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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

back in the early 00s I used to do AOL tech support. Even then a lot of people were on cable or DSL. Vast majority of calls we got were from people out in the boonies or the elderly so it doesn't surprise me that there are still a good chunk of people on dialup.

Actually by that point most of our calls weren't even for Dial Up. the thing with AOL support back then was if the user also had other computer issues unrelated to AOL that they brought up while on the line with us we HAD to address them and try to do support for it. Callers would discover this fact and use AOL tech support as a defacto go to tech support for ALL computer issues. They'd start off with some random easy to fix (they knew how to fix) dialup issue and then would say "oh wow you fixed it, I wish you could also help me with this problem I've been having for awhile with..." and yup, we'd roll our eyes and say "oh, what what's wrong?" A good chunk of my calls, believe it or not, would be for printer issues.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I still use my old aim account as my spam email email address. Any business asks for my email, they get that one. There's like 5,000 unread emails in there. It keeps my actual email uncluttered and not full of spam. It'll be a sad day when they close down those servers, then I'll have to to dust off the ole Hotmail account lol

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Hell, I'm sure there are still some places that only have dialup.

[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wow. I didn't know that dial up was still a thing in the US

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Capitalism milked that shit D R Y.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

POV: Be a software developer. It's 2025. You're maintaining dialer software for an ISP. The software is written in Delphi or Visual Basic. It's all you've done since 1995. You've got 5 years to retirement. Corporate announces end of life for dial up services.

[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 14 points 17 hours ago

Not too bad really, considering that software developer has milked that cow for way longer than anyone would've thought. Those last 5 years will be challenging though, but maybe the software developer can sprinkle some AI over their resume and magically land some weird role that nobody can explain why we need it in the first place.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Oh wow, dial-up in Germany died 20+ years ago. I'm surprised that's still a thing. Well, was. But until now is really staggering. I wonder what you could even still do over such a connection, considering that even messenger services and email now use 3-5MB just completing the server handshake.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Actually, dial-up in Germany died 2 years ago: https://www.teltarif.de/internet/by-call/

And since dial-up just uses a regular phone connection, there's nothing stopping you from dialing up a dial-up provider from a different country, so dial-up still works in Germany.

In fact, you can host your own dial-up gateway at any time. All you need is a PC with both a dial-up modem (which are still readily available on places like Amazon or Galaxus) and an internet connection. Set both interfaces to bridge mode and you are your own little dial-up provider.

In some places this is still used in place of a VPN. Just put a dial-up modem inside the private network, connect it to a phone line and dial-up from the outside to get into the private network. Add a phone number allow-list to prevent access by unauthorized people.

The technology is ancient and not in wide-spread use anymore, obviously, and hasn't been in a long time. But that's the same pretty much anywhere. The main reason why AOL still had the service running (and why German providers did until 2023 too) is because it costs almost nothing to keep the service running for the handful of people who are still paying incredibly expensive internet contracts from the 90s.

Similar story with analogue telephone lines. In Austria there are only ~4000 customers left who use analogue telephone. But it costs nothing to keep it around and the people running it haven't updated their phone contracts in 20+ years and thus pay crazy prices.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 4 points 16 hours ago

Just over the weekend I browsed trough my old blog (yes, those were a thing too) to check which year I did some remodeling on our house and stumbled on a note where I complained about slow 3G connection about 10 years ago. Compared to traditional dial-up that's still orders of magnitude faster(~10/1Mbps back then on our location) but on a snowy day (with severe packet loss) it apparently took 10 minutes to get Skype and XMPP to even log in and over a minute to get SSH session open.

I suppose you can just barely get email trough today and even then you better not be in a hurry.

[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

I miss the old internet.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

i miss the red dragon inn </3

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 hours ago

It's a really fun drinking boardgame game now.

https://slugfestgames.com/rdi-products/

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

LORD is still out there if you look. I think they have leaderboards under a new name

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Me too!

(obscure reference time)

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, sounds like this is the end, guys. It was good getting to know you. I knew those 30-day free trials would run out eventually.

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

AOL used to setup kiosk systems at computer stores so customers could experience AOL in the store, and each store was given a login account. Long after the kiosks went down, these accounts remained active, providing those employees "in the know" with free AOL all throughout its pay-by-the-hour years.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago

But I only needed three more 30 day trials to finish downloading cd2 of the phantom menace cam that I started in 1999...

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

AOL was dead to me the day they dropped support for Neverwinter Nights.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fitting that it's ending in (eternal) September.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 10 points 22 hours ago

Understanding this joke makes me feel old.

[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Deep cut appreciated and approved of.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AOL Shield Browser is some absolute Wack Crap.

Remember how AOL bought Netscape and open-sourced it, leading to the Mozilla project?

AOL Shield Browser is based on Chromium.

...I get it, Chromium is easier to use for developing custom browsers than Gecko. But, still... why?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I actually had no idea that Firefox only exists because of AOL (The Mozilla Browser evolved into Firefox for those not in the know). Thanks for sharing that interesting bit of history.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

They actually didn't; the timeline is off. Mozilla was spun off as an open source version of Netscape Navigator in January 1998. Netscape was acquired by AOL in November.

Jamie Zawinski, who had been a major proponent of open sourcing it within Netscape, was a critic of the merger.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be pedantic there really wasn't a standalone browser, it was the Netscape (later Mozilla) suite which was browser email WYSIWYG HTML editor and an irc client. Firefox, then called Firebird, was them fully decoupling it from the suite.

Also that's why the email client is called Thunderbird, it was meant to be a separate but complimentary program to Firebird.

The pedantic part is that it wasn't an evolution. The suite never died, it's still around. They have a shared Netscape/Mozilla Suite ancestor. It's called SeaMonkey.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow this is one of those instances where I'm simultaneously surprised something still exists and also find it to make a lot of sense that it still exists.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Yeah. Increasingly reliable satellite internet really killed their bottom line over the last few years.

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[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I worked there from 2002-2005. Was 2 cubicles down from the guy responsible for sending out the “free trial!” CDs. Fun times

[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine the shear amount of waste that guy helped put on the planet! A few spots away from a real life villain!

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Oh yeah that dude made a LOT of trash. But we were working the elevator on the Death Star, man. It wasn’t his idea to do it, just his job to execute it. I suppose he could have refused to do it on principle, but they’d have another person hired within an hour. Ethics and values rarely put a roof over your head, though. AOL was the biggest employer in the area and their executive suite was ruthless. Blame them, not the guy clicking the button.

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[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

GET OFF THE INTERNET! I NEED TO MAKE A CALL!

Ok, mum! Let me just upload my geocities site.

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[–] mrddu3at2@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rip my pcmcia modem card 😭

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

… In the U.S., for instance, the latest government census data indicates approximately a quarter of a million remaining dial-up holdouts.

One of the natural successors for internet connectivity in hard-to-reach places is satellite, with around eight million subscribers in the U.S. …

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[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow 34 Years of Dialup. Who still uses dial up? I guess that naive of me and is coming from a place of privelege.

But still dial up??!

Up until probably about a decade ago I would occasionally go into small shops that used dial up to process credit card payments. There may still be some places doing that but I haven't noticed it in a while.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you live in a rural area, it seems plausible

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even simple pages are now at least 1-2MB big. News pages without an ad blocker and Autoplay videos can easily try to download 10 or more MB per page load. On 56kbits dial up, 10MB will take about 25 mins in the best case.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

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