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Starlink operator SpaceX is fighting Virginia's plan to deploy fiber Internet service to residents, claiming that federal grant money should be given to Starlink instead. SpaceX is already in line to win over $3 million in grant money in the state but is seeking $60 million.

Starlink is poised to benefit from the Trump administration rewriting rules for the $42 billion Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program. While the Biden administration decided that states should prioritize fiber in order to build more future-proof networks, the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach" and lower the average cost of serving each location.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 34 minutes ago

the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a “tech-neutral approach” and lower the average cost of serving each location

In other words don't give the tax payer the best options you can, give them the cheapest options to implement you can.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 18 points 1 hour ago

Musk is a toxic stink in this world.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 73 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I’m so fucking tired of living in this god damned dystopia.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Do something about it then...

PS: maybe you are, if so, Kudos to you... but the majority seem to only rue it

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry, it ends eventually.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 0 points 52 minutes ago

This time, it won't.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Does fiber go down when it rains?

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 25 points 4 hours ago

Owh hell no! Just rollout fiber ASAP.

[–] Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (5 children)

Reminds me of the German Telekom and their unceasing effort to slow down state subsidised fibre deployment.

The subsidies are primarily for towns left behind with bad ADSL (it was below 30mbit average and is now afaik 100mbit), that want to build their own local fibre nets cause nobody else does.

They seem to watch for construction permits and then swoop in and build a few fibre adsl distribution boxes or elevate a street or two with fibre to raise the average speed in town just above threshold. The local net looses the subsidies and usually stops construction or if already built only commercial customers are still allowed to be connected...

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 1 hour ago

Reminds me of the German Telekom and their unceasing effort to slow down state subsidised fibre deploymen

Capitalism is a disease.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

It would be a shame if some random accident were to befall those token distribution boxes…

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 13 points 4 hours ago

I love it when they reopen construction sites where cables from other carriers were recently buried (after Telekom said no) because NOW they want to provide their shit there too.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago

DTAG should be a wholly state owned company again.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

When we got cable TV and proper broadband internet with it, the previous company relying on the local monopoly got extremely pissed. Every of their services costed the multitude of what competitors, even on phone line, could offer. Most outrageous was ADSL. Competitor ADSL started at HUF5 000 for 384k download speed, topped at HUF15 000 for 2M, per month. The local provider? It started at HUF20 000, for a laughable 256k download speed. Explanation? The parent company thought it was a luxury, because you could just send a hand-written mail instead of the e-mail, get a dish TV with HBO and a tape recorder with a timer instead of torrenting movies, etc.

[–] thatcrow@ttrpg.network 20 points 5 hours ago

Keep in mind, the cost of businesses to control politics is woven directly into the prices of their products and services.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 37 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalism breeds innovation

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

If they could put that brain power to innovate on their product instead of innovate on how to fuck people, that would be great!

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 24 points 5 hours ago

Federal. Money should go to the poor. Elon musk can fuck off.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

"Hey, can we provide Fibre broadband to our residents?"

"No, we got a lot of money from Sattelite providers, eat shit and die."

Hey, this seems familiar.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Gucci Gulch should be a mass grave

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 47 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

i hope elon dies and starlink goes bankrupt

[–] thatcrow@ttrpg.network 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I hope some hero gives him the UnitedHealth CEO treatment.

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Green hat good

Sig heil bad

[–] haych@feddit.uk 19 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I'd rather Starlink just be independent from Musk. There are people who just can not get a good Internet connection and rely on it, and other Satellite Internet companies are awful.

I hate Musk as much as the next person, but Starlink is brilliant and works well. If they got rid of Musk and stopped being dicks like they are with this, it'd be okay.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 3 points 43 minutes ago

I don't know how much Musk can be separated from Starlink. Not only because Starlink, as part of SpaceX, is privately held but also because the main reason they now have a superior service to offer is that they got fucktons of money from government customers, which is also tied to Musk's action

A big part of Musk's involvement with politics is because everything he does, from EVs to rockets to, now, big energy-guzzling datacenters for AI, needs a lot of government backing, if not in terms of direct contracts at least in terms of regulation and incentives.

Even his direct involvement with Trump wasn't because he suddenly became a Nazi (he's probably always been one, according to his own family) but in order to become even more entangled with government investments, even trying to control NASA directly.

And not only US governments. I remember Musk suddenly being everywhere in Europe pitching Starlink. Meloni's government in Italy was grilled for allegedly agreeing on a big contract with Starlink.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 23 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Id rather all this space trash burn up and we just spend the money on providing internet via land.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's still a good thing for cell coverage in remote areas for hiking emergencies though. The few satellites that currently do that are stupidly annoying and expensive to use. You have to carry specialized equipment, and if you use Garmin, you pay a yearly fee for the privilege of signing up for the low tier plan, then a monthly fee for the service, and then pay by the text message after the first few. Starlink just added T-Mobile so if you have a newer phone and use T-Mobile you can skip all of that and message out in emergencies without all that nonsense. Hopefully more brands will be added soon, but I don't know.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Life is not safe. Adventure even less so. The loss of the night sky and the risk of Kessler syndrome is not outweighed by a slight convenience allowing influencers to stream video and hit social media while pretending to get away from it all.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's not for streaming. As far as I know it's just text messages. Absolutely agree we should not be using screen time when out and away. We just need that little bit of safety.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

There are also hand held radios, strobelights, flares, and PLBs that do not require more satellite infrastructure.

People being lost in the wilderness is not a new problem. It often happens because people don't bother to consider that they might get lost and plan appropriately.

Sorry, but not everyone gets to come home, especially if they don't do a little planning.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

People should learn to navigate if they're going into the wilderness, and face the consequences if they don't. People will call for additional safety until we all live in padded cells. There's no need to litter the sky with satellites so that the incompetent can live a bit longer.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

Or we could just make satellite phone service more accessible? Without the need for thousands of pieces of space trash put into LEO? Nobody needs tiktok when they are climbing a mountain in a remote area.

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