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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I was born in '79. I know a lot of 1980s/1990s stuff that's floating in popular consciousness right now is fictional romanticised bullshit, because it's based on romaticised fiction made in that era.

For example, I knew most kids didn't hang out at The Mall. I was a kid. We didn't have a goddamn mall. American movies and TV showed kids hanging out at The Mall. Maybe hanging out at the Mall was an aspirational thing. Or something.

It's a thing that happened for some people but it's not the entire truth about the era. It's not just that people tend to remember the good bits, they tend to remember the good bits that happened to someone else.

There's a reason why nobody makes AI slop about the Finnish 1990s banking crisis and its wide systemic repercussions felt to this day. Edit: Sorry if none of this makes sense, just ate something other than cheap potatoes for the first time in a week

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One of my most vivid memories of the 80s was that bullying was absolutely rampant and no one did anything about it. Parents then were just like, "It's part of growing up!"

Bullying from all sides with adults taking part in ways no different than the children. Made me wonder if they whole 'respect your elders' made any fucking sense.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wouldn't call it rampant.
Didn't really cause a dent on that generation either.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He is talking about his own experience, not for the whole generation

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[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

It was rampant where I grew up.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I copped a few dints

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’s the thing about this. We lived through the 80s and know what it smells like, so this isn’t aimed at us. It’s all the kids who are into Stranger Things and the like with their weird Instagram Filter take on the decade.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finnish 1990s banking crisis

I was curious and I came back with a Wikipedia link for everyone else.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago
[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gotta love when the Internet calls 80's kids boomers 😅 and no it was never a utopia but it was our fucked up times, and no one else's.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My take on boomerifying is getting other generations to behave like the stereotypical boomer, not that they are actual boomers by birthday.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I agree with you, but it is a lot like Boomers calling everyone younger a Millenial.

A very heavily biased article, discrediting that many people's lifes were indeed better in 1985.

Who is this article written for? Who do you try to reach that way? Why sow division?

You're only going to reach people if you actually help them have a better outlook in life. Writing incisive articles like that is not gonna do any good.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The 80s were already the second decade of the decline after the gold standard was revoked in 1971 and wages became decoupled from productivity. Everything was on a slowly accelerating slide downhill from there, although it took until the 90s for the first people to truly notice things were going sideways.

You want a real economic golden era? Try the 50s and the 60s, where a single wage earner could work a low-end service-level job (selling shoes, for example), and make enough to own a detached SFH, a car in the garage, support a SAH spouse and several children, go on modest vacations every year with at least one more ambitious one every few years, and still have enough left over to save generously for retirement.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you may be missing the word ‘white’ somewhere in your analysis

Married with children isn't a fib

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Abandon your monetarist goldbug worldview, the gold decoupling and subsequent floating of the international exchange rates are downstream of the actual policy decision that have emiserated the population.

The globalists open the western worker to global competition, they lost their leverage by losing their scarcity and competence.

The subsequent decline comes from the system's inertia and the burning of the future with debt and literally the future by having spending money instead of kids.

If you want the golden age back for normal people, then there is NO REMEDY other than giving them their leverage and power back.

But how do you do that ? Taxes and interest rates serve to dis-empower those who need it the most and regular people are the one MOST hurt by these.

The neoliberal religion refuses to treat people who "win" the game of capital differently than regular people, as if they were somehow on an equal footing.

The result ? The more wealth you have the easier it becomes to acquire and accumulate more of it. This needs to be exactly reversed, the poorer you are, the easier it should be to acquire but the more you have the harder it gets. Up until a point where it becomes nearly impossible to go beyond the "capital horizon" some kind of equilibrium state where wealth can lo longer be acquired faster than you lose it.

It's not some shiny metal bullshit which only serves the status quo like discussion about which toilet should a trans person piss in.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The subsequent decline comes from the system’s inertia and the burning of the future with debt and literally the future by having spending money instead of kids

The 1% can make their own wage slaves.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, let their 1% breeding mares birth directly into the wood chipper if they'd like, I'll abstain for these couple lifetimes

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Abandon your monetarist goldbug worldview, the gold decoupling and subsequent floating of the international exchange rates are downstream of the actual policy decision that have emiserated the population.

I never said they were directly related, I just wanted to point out that they both occurred in the same year, in 1971.

This needs to be exactly reversed, the poorer you are, the easier it should be to acquire but the more you have the harder it gets. Up until a point where it becomes nearly impossible to go beyond the "capital horizon" some kind of equilibrium state where wealth can lo longer be acquired faster than you lose it.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Absolutely.

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[–] KingDingbat@lemmy.world 111 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

It's true that this is all AI slop and that they are disgustingly manipulative videos but I do disagree with the notion that the nostalgia and The era was fake and never existed. As a child of the '80s and '90s we really did stay out all day until the street lights came on, and hang out in pizza places and malls and the internet and our screen life has played a major role in changing that. What is heinous here is that people are creating triggers just to manipulate generations. Not the nostalgia.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Yeah, the article repeatedly suggesting it was a disingenuous depiction of the era, but didn't seem to make any attempt to support that assertion.

I'd love a breakdown as to what specifically was disingenuous.

I mean, like any social media, it's selectively showing "the good", and ignoring the bad. Is that it? Like, they can't (and wouldn't even if they could) put the heavy cigarette smell of any restaurant of the era through the phone.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 43 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If you watched Stranger Things, the depiction of Nancy going to work and being relegated to making coffee for the boys instead of being taken seriously at an actual job is an iconic representation of women’s struggle in the workplace. Remember, women were only allowed to have their own bank accounts, credit cards, and home loans as legally protected assets, starting in the late 1970s. We were deemed more incompetent, and more wards of our husbands in those respects. Inertia of those notions remained even after the legality changed. That whole bit in Delores Claiborne, where her husband finds her “private”, “personal”, only her name on it bank account and just empties it: real. (That is what RBG had a deciding vote on btw, what gave her such credit back in the day, changing financial freedoms for women to match those of men.)

Yes, this may seem a little focused on women, but it’s a significant piece of the “things were better” push on the right. The right did grow, in part, as a reaction to the loss of the more controlled, traditional, “kept” female. It’s important to keep a full visual of what going back could mean. Roe has already fallen.

Moving away from screen time to more face to face is good. Doesn’t mean texting is bad, it’s fantastic, amazing even, how easy it is to communicate. I love it. But I still drive 10-15min to sit down in a living room face to face with people. I feel little to no stress when disagreement, argument, or even anger occurs. Facing the normal range of human emotion in another doesn’t make me want to hide.

Even just moving back to more long form media would help stop the destructive, anxiety perpetuating, focus reducing rewiring happening. YouTube statistics are now saying anything over 10 minutes is doomed to die based on viewer preference. 9 minutes or less or gtfo. Shorts are quickly taking over and perpetually rewiring people on the daily.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Sure, but we also drank in parking lots because there was nothing to do, had guys physically grabbing at us instead of just yelling stuff, got bullied in school more, and the violent crime rate was something like 10x what it is now. Oh, and our friends were dying of AIDS as well. And the bay was polluted, and downtown was so dead we could walk around it like a ghost town.

I will never understand nostalgia. There are good things and bad things about every time. But even with the fuckers trying to pull us backwards now, there has been progress.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep, I was gonna say, as a child of the 70s/early 80s, I was a totally unsupervised latch-key kid. The paedophiles loved that. It was a predator’s paradise. Most of us knew kids our age who either vanished or died by misadventure, and many of us were assaulted in some way.

I don’t like helicopter parenting, either, but anyone who sees the Wild West of the 80s as some sort of ideal either has a faulty memory or is deluding themselves.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 41 points 4 days ago (8 children)

A perfectly cromulent word.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Remember all the propagandaish art of the 50s, 60s, and 70s based on advertisements of the time? Like all the Norman Rockwell stuff, sanitized hippie shit, and 70s rock star junk?

Apparently AI is being used to pump out the same kind of thing for the 80s but more blatant.

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[–] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I'm losing my edge to the art-school Brooklynites in little jackets and borrowed nostalgia for the unremembered eighties

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of all those stupid "cyberpunk 1994, office nights 1998" ai slop playlists on YouTube. They all have a common theme: they don't represent or even remotely sound like the kind of music from the year they claim to take you back to. and the tracks, if one can call them that, are the same repetitive, thoughtless rhythms. If you go to YouTube to find some background music to listen to, these kinds of uploads dominate the search results today. And it's all D-tier shit.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Boomerfying

That's a scary word.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (9 children)

yeah! let's go back to a time when gas was $12 a gallon. where women had two jobs, making babies and making dinner. where teen pregnancy was at its highest ever. where the government fueled a drug and arms war in South America. where the constant threat of thermonuclear war was banging on the iron dome every single day.

yeah....sounds like a fuckin blast from the past. fuckin rad.

[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Dont forget the insane racism and misogyny and HOMOPHOBIA on another level. It made news when someone shook a gay guys hand. And the good ol death by AIDS sweeping the nation. The horrific parenting that led to PSA asking if they know where their kids are. The fucking unsolved kidnappings. The escalators that didn't have emergency stops and would choke you to death on your own shoelace.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s all real here, no filters, no screens.

… said the AI.

Fuck I hate that garbage. The 80’s were amazing. We don’t need new tech ruining that memory.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I may have been one of the lucky. With all it's warts, the 80's, for many young people, were a banger. Sort of the final bang of the 60's and 70's. Perfect? Nowhere near, but the music, social, artistic, and so many other aspects, were pretty damn cool, and for the young crowd it was mainly what mattered. Things like the fall of the Berlin wall, the perceived end of the end of the cold war and the nuclear Armageddon threat gave us a sense of optimism. Looking back there are things, like the Reagan/Thatcher tandem, that were setting the stage to the neo-liberal clusterfuck we live in, but our focus was elsewhere.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I fucking loved it in the 80’s. Yeah, the music, the films… so good. The politics were crap as it usually is. And I’ll say that even with the latest admin being wait it is, diversity has come a long way- but the 80’s were an oasis for me.

I remember it bitter-sweetly. We can never have that again.

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80s nostalgia ai slop to relive memories? 😴

80s nostalgia to relive memories by looking at vhsrips of 80s home videos and media? 😎👉👉

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 25 points 4 days ago (7 children)

what confuses me the most about these videos is the call to action. go back? that's not how time works!

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I hate to tell you this, but the mullets were very real. It was a dark time and we’re all glad it’s in the past.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Mullets are back, my dude.

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 24 points 4 days ago

Like actually back. Popular, even. I get downvoted to oblivion for making fun of mullets. I don't understand a world where mullets are not just here, but defended as a legitimate hairstyle.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

People gotta stop watching slop. But it seems impossible to get people to stop using tiktok, twitter, instagram, et al. They just don't care enough.

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