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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 305 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The infuriating part of the Google enshittification process is that there is absolutely nothing the user can do about it.

Literally the only thing that motivates Google is profit. Controlling side-loaded apps will almost certainly boost their profits by a infinitesimal fraction of a percent, therefore it will be done. Even if consumer uproar causes Google to back down in the short term, they'll simply implement this a few months later. Late-stage Capitalism sucks.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 161 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (54 children)

You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.

But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (49 children)

I will help hand hold anyone who wants to build servers or services (to the best of my ability) to replace Google services with their own.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 63 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

My public school -- that my children are basically required by law to attend, remember -- is badgering me to sign a consent form so they can have Chromebooks.

This fight is a lot fucking larger than mere individual boycotts!

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

And my kids school requires every parent to have a Google account to track progress and share information.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

De-Google

The complaint is side loading is being restricted and the only long term alternative Apple. Google already began the process of shutting down Graphene by cutting drivers out of AOSP.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-not-killing-aosp-3566882/

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You can stop using all Google products.

That may be true for you, but other people face different realities. When Google implements the sideloading block it will eventually be pushed to everyone who doesn't use a custom ROM.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 124 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Its about time an open standard happened for mobile OSes.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 95 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's what Android was and they keep trying to undo that any way they can

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 49 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

We need a new one that isn't made by a for-profit company that only was good at the beginning to get total market saturation before flipping the enshittification switch to maximize those profits.

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[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. This is what's holding back all initiatives.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

the best outcome for the short term would be to forcibly take away android from google and give it to an independent foundation. as I heard antitrust proceedings in the usa were heading that way a few months ago

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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 78 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

I don't know about anyone else, but I got into computers at a young age because it gave me a sense of control over something. I didn't understand everything, but I could do a lot of trial and error, read things and experiment, build cool things, and I shared a sense of community with some random internet strangers based on that knowledge.

In a world where we are so powerless in so many other ways, why did we insist on bringing that power dynamic into the new bright tech sphere? Why did we have to do that? (N.B. this is rhetorical questioning).

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In the new Alien Earth TV show, 5 corporations basically run everything.. unfortunately I suspect thats where we are headed as a species.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are at least two generations of us who are disappointed at the contrast between tech's possibilities as envisioned decades ago and the corporate surveillance crap we have to put up with today.

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[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 73 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When reading cyberpunk lore, quickhacks didn't make any sense to me. Some programs that break cyberware because of backdoors, but why would people install cyberware with backdoors?

Now I look at the sad state of mobile market and, yeah ok, that makes sense.

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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 71 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Easily the most disgusting company in the planet and it’s funny that their old motto/slogan was ”Don’t be evil”.

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Are you kidding me? How am I supposed to live in this damn Orwellian society that is coming?

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[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)
[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

IS THAT A FUCKING HEADPHONE JACK!?

Let's go 🔥🔥🔥

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 52 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

The EU's been breathing down Apple's neck for them trying to do similar shit, so i find the timing kinda weird.
Plus they'd need to force-update their spyware first, i wonder how many versions of android they're willing to go back.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 23 points 3 weeks ago

I think the update is already installed, just waiting for the kill switch.

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[–] thespawnkiller@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel like this is the new normal cycle of every software company. Once they become a leader, it's never enough. It replicates the rise of billionaires. Just as the billionaires being rich beyond anything they and all of their succeeding generations could ever spend is not enough, being the industry leader and producing an amazing product that people want is somehow not enough. It always turns to control and power.

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[–] flemtone@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (38 children)

Already using GrapheneOs on my phone, so fuck Google.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait until Google locks the bootloader.

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[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

But, what happens when Google decides to no longer the option to unlock the bootloader for future phones? It's the future that is the concern when it comes to the degoogle options available.

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[–] generator@lemmy.zip 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they just want to confirm a malicious actor didn’t develop it

So Newpipe, SmartTube, Nintendo emulators...

Clones of opensource apps bundled with ads that violates license is OK, but restricting everyone to build and test apps from source so it can test new features and report any issues is too risky for the user

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[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

now it's just a race for the giant conglomerates to make the worst decisions for consumers

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

As shitty as M$ is, it would have been nice to see Windows phone become moderately successful and be a third primary mobile os.

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[–] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 37 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I came here specifically to ask about alternatives to Android now that google is becoming too abusive in the relationship.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And they can suckle upon my peener.

I'll go to Graphine or something else before I let the company for whom "don't be evil" was too bold a statement dictate my fuckin' choices.

I already ditched Windows. Can't be that hard to cut Google out too.

[–] traceur301@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Graphene has locked itself to google hardware, and google can cripple them at any point by stopping bootloader unlocks. We need to go deeper, or aim higher as it were

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[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

What's my better option at this point?

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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I’m bothered that big companies, especially tech right now, no longer see their customers as people they need to please to stay in business, but instead as something they’ll inconvenience and squeeze as much as they can possibly get away with.

They all got to where they are making, at one point, amazing products. Now? Fuck making windows useful, we can throw ads and AI at you every place we can think of. Fuck all of the parts of Android that made it stand out, we tell you what to install. You don’t want all of your data scraped and sold? Fuck you, there’s 3 of us and we’re all doing it. In fact we’ll never stop finding new ways to harvest data.

Phones have basically stagnated entirely in the US. Sure you get moderately better chipsets, but what else? AI? I haven’t had a phone struggle with anything in… maybe 10 years. Instead features that people didn’t use enough just get removed.

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[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Year of the Linux phone, I guess.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

google is pissed people were deleting that spying app on android phones, plus thier constant attack on adblocking on youtube wasnt working to well. since samsung and iphones pretty much walled in thier os, why not google.

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck them. I have a guitar a pocket watch and a wind uo radio. Everything have is a nicety.

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