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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Did their parents drop them on their heads as kids? Because there has to be something seriously wrong with them if they think that’s the way to go.

A 60 dollar buy is a VERY hard sell. And a 15 dollar subscription is a completely no-go. Or rather, ANY subscription.

Whoever came up with that is seriously detached from any form of reality.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 3 days ago

MMO with a subscription?

Bitch, you ain't WoW. And I won't even pay a subscription for WoW.

[–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is called renting... not purchasing for ownership.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, there are some very celebrated games that commit to this approach. Final Fantasy XIV and WoW keep getting away with it, and there are others.

Of course, they had to work for a long time to earn that pedigree and price tag. This certainly has not.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And other celebrated games, Everquest, are 100% free to play up to the most recent 2 expansions. There is a paid subscription that unlocked slightly more powerful spells, quick alternate ability progression, and......i dont remember..... You can pay about $10 for the quick ability progression instantly but the spells are unimportant. You could also just buy the expansions without subscriptions, or you could just wait a year for your next free dosage of content. Hell theres enough content free for a few years of play without needing to buy anything.

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

FF14 is also free to play for the first several expansions to be fair

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

FFXIV has certainly earned it over the years, and in the case of WoW, isn't it only the most recent expac that costs extra? I think you get all the previous ones, and WoW Classic, for just subscribing.

Tbh with FFXIV you only have to buy the 2? Most recent expacs and you can play free up to 70/100 and the accompanying story stuff without. It doesn't do the limited time free trial anymore.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

These are games that require constant development though.

[–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago

I don't think that matters. The should've made it a one-time purchase, DRM free, no P2W, no macrotransactions. More people are becoming old-school about their gaming needs nowadays, and I for one happened to be in that camp.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I wihshlisted assuming itd be free or cheap, looks bad lol, they prob saw the high amount of wishlists and got greedy not realizing most ppl thought it was some low effort cheap game

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just play City of Heroes. It's still running in private servers, and Homecoming is even doing active development on new powers and questlines.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Plus, there is just zero chance any new game could possibly come out of the gate with more features and hours of gameplay than CoH. Physically impossible.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Not only is it still running on private servers, those private servers have the blessing of the original devs. If I'm remembering correctly, they even provided the admins some dev tools and code

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 days ago

I can't believe the devs sat there, built that abomination, and said, yeah $45 and $15 a month sounds about right....

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok but when we gonna get a new Ultima Online?

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For real, now THAT would be something I'd get behind.

Especially if someone gets to assassinate Lord British again.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Y'all ain't heard of Shroud of the Avatar? It's new UO. Except not good. :(

Your last three words describe my experience trying Shroud entirely, sadly.. it just ain't the same

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was really excited for that game and donated to the Kickstarter. Played it for a bit in one of the early releases, and it seemed kind of promising despite being very broken at the time. Booted it up a few years later and it was somehow way worse of an experience. What a huge mess of a game.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago

I actually won a raffle they had because I signed up to their newsletter as soon as I heard about the game, so I have a bunch of merch for a thing I don't even like lol

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would be far more open to mo they subscriptions if I didnt have to pay for the game upfront.

I would probably play wow and pay monthly if i didnt have to pay for the game and all the expansions as well as the subscription.

Just too much money imo for what I would get out of the experience

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not saying it's entirely cool, but wow base game purchase usually includes all expansions except the latest nowadays and that rolls (you get newer ones as more expansions are released) if you had an account historically.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Oh that's good to know. I wasn't aware of that

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A ship sounds a lot less exciting than a city.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

*Unless it's a murder-mystery, but then Train > Ship

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

....you know what, I think I'll go play City of Heroes again.

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I play on Homecoming. I played the original and it is the only MMO at the time I had high level characters. It was just a blast. I recreated my main in Homecoming. Dark masiama/ psych healer. I was never without a group. I just hovered behind the tank and kept them toped up and buffed. I also played Champions and even have a lifetime membership but it does not match City of Heroes. The only thing I would like is for Homecoming to add some sort of group voice chat.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I like no voice chat, but I have had absolutely horrible times with voice chats.

My main character was a scrapper martial artist. I just mostly remember I managed to make her covered with clothes from head to toe and shrouded in shadows. "What was that blur of smoke?" one might ask. "It's me! Here to punch!" nyoom nyoom was my living. And punching.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s, uh, a bold play.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago

And uh its YOUR fault, so uh don't buy our game? Wait wait - do buy our game, but you should feel bad

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I wish the Marvel MMO was available on private servers. Played that shit for thousands of hours before it just disappeared

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

CoH was a flawed, but awesome MMO in many ways. I'd love to see it done right, but I think they are out of their mind if this think this will succeed.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Go play CoH ... the EMU is a perfect retail copy of the game.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Well, as I said, it was flawed. The XP grind near the end got roooough, especially since that was still in the era of losing XP when you died. That was especially frustrating when they had lag issues that killed you and then you lost a week of progress leveling up. The game was still a lot of fun though.