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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It’s a shame. I tried it last night and it has a lot of good ideas and atmosphere, but it was ruined for me by the one thing that ruins every game in this genre, PvP.

I would eat up a purely co-op version of this, even if other humans were replaced with NPCs, but I don’t have the stomach or tolerance for any kind of PvP.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You aren't alone on that. One of my friends got it with his new gpu. He tried it not knowing it had PVP and was really enjoying it. Then another player made his life miserable. He quit and won't play again.

It's too bad too because me and 3 other friends were also on board with the idea of buying it when he was talking about it. But then we found out it was PVP only and that completely killed it for all of us. So they lost out on about 5 players and 4 purchases from our group just because there wasn't a no PVP option. And I mean it really doesn't seem like it'd be hard. Just turn off the connection to other players. If they wanted to go above and beyond, make it so you can play with a small group of friends. But at the very least being able to turn off PVP would've been a good idea.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don’t understand PvP. In games like this it’s toxic by design and I don’t understand how that is supposed to be fun for anyone. It makes me concerned for society that games specifically designed to ruin someone else’s day are this popular.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

It's really fun for toxic people.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah I can agree with that. Game devs need to take more time to ensure that they aren't building something that encourages bad behavior.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the "PvE-only was too boring" argument doesn't even work. Just add a special kind of extra-dangerous enemy that's more alert to your presence and acts more tactically compared to the dumber robots, to add the same tension players would add.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Just add a special kind of extra-dangerous enemy

They usually add more bullet sponges to shooters. That is boring as hell.

[–] tachyon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Maybe Escape from Duckov is more your speed.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I played it for 2 hours and enjoyed it thoroughly. But I only ran into a player once, the other times I extracted early. But that one time was enough to sour my mood. I hope they do something to limit the PvP.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're saying asmongold take is 🐕 💩?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Haha like your name, cheers brother.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

They must have a decent marketing budget because I've seen A LOT of big streamers playing it. It looked ok. not my cup o tea.

also funny note that the new Call of Duty apparently censors "ARC Raiders" in the in game chat.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 6 days ago

I played it for a bit and it's really good. I just don't like the genere

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I fucking hate living in today's world.

You can't even talk about different games while playing certain ones, like what bullshit is that? I really feel like corporations are policing people's lives nowadays, what with Nintendo being shitty to everyone, CoD not letting you talk about certain other games in-game, YouTube and other social media companies censoring any goddamn word that has even the slightest negative connotations (kill, suicide, pedophile, etc.}

Like the world just feels so infantilized and people can't actually be people anymore, like we all need to be told what to do.

And in the end, I think it could all be explained with the rise of fascism literally everywhere right now. This world and existence fuckin sucks.

[–] MirrorGiraffe@piefed.social 18 points 1 week ago

But then we have the indie devs that constantly praise each other, include in-game references to their inspirations or blog about what blast they're having while playing a competitors game.

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[–] justsquigglez@leminal.space 40 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Can't wait for the news about it inevitably dropping in players. Followed by news of permanent server shutdown within the next 2 years (I'm being extremely generous.)

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, unless they move their focus towards more casual gameplay as opposed to the sweatfest that is PvP, the game will only alienate PvE players and be reduced to a swarm of toxic PvP-players.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To be fair, I told my friends that I thought The Finals would last only 7 months, but it stabilized around a little north of 10k concurrent players, which is probably fewer than the devs were hoping for but enough to keep it going.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I didn't realize it was The Finals people. That alone sells me. What a shockingly fun free game.

[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their handling of The Finals is a big reason I'm going to invest some time and money into Arc Raiders. It's a really beautiful game with amazing sound design. I urge anyone who isn't generally into extraction shooters to give it a shot this weekend, I don't mind dying and losing shit as long as I'm making progress on missions and whatnot.

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[–] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly nothing makes me feel more disconnected with the general gaming populace than the sheer popularity of extraction shooters. Every single one of them looks and sounds unfun. Also they tend to look incredibly generic.

But they're popular so what do I know.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As a guy with over 2.5k hours in Hunt, I think it really comes down to people just enjoying different things. I can no longer play standard match based shooters, anymore, as I find the lack of consequence leads me to not caring about the outcome of games.

Incidentally I've also returned to playing Eve, because losing a level 50 hunter you spent a few hours leveling up? That's nothing compared to losing a ship you spent half a year working towards.

Basically I'm addicted to lossy progression in games. Not claiming it's an end-all-be-all mechanic, but damn if it hasn't made me love games again.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah hunt is great, love the atmosphere, the tools, the learning curve and the stupid interactions. Hunt loss is pretty minor though, takes maybe a few alright rounds to get the fun perks and then you can just buy whatever gear.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 2 points 6 days ago

Yep, which is precisely why it's my favorite. I think it's a really well balanced game. Now if it wasn't for the crappy main menu UI (which, granted, they've really improved as of late) and the bizarre bugs (which they haven't) it would be almost perfect.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 2 points 6 days ago

Going on two decades now.

Me with Minecraft.

Me with MMOs.

Me with Dota/LoL and whatever this genre is called.

Me with DayZ/etc survival shooters.

Me with whatever chess auto battlere are.


Granted, games after the popularity winds down and they incorporate it into game genres I do like are neat. I freaking love V Rising.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They are inherently a sweat fest by their very nature and they appeal to a crowd that enjoys high risk high reward gameplay. Theres nothing wrong with you for not being into it. Not everybody’s dream job is being a fireman and running into burning buildings before lunch either.

But it’s one of those niche genres that scratch an itch that more casual games don’t.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What is an extraction shooter? The article did not explain, which it really should have.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Seriously. Let's say the words Extraction Shooter 12 times, and not bother with a quick mention of what the fuck an Extraction Shooter is. Brilliant!

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 6 days ago

You go on a map with A.I enemies and real people. The goal is to extract components that you want, guns, valubles. You lose everything you found on that run if you don't extract. Other people try the same thing and steal your stuff.

[–] RabbitMix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

It's a Battle Royale with a mix of PvE and PvE (usually) where you can find places to "extract" and leave with the weapons and gear you found, allowing you to bring those in to future matches, at the risk of losing everything you brought if you are killed.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It's a game based around starting a round that loads you into a map, completing X objectives on that map, and then leaving the map alive to make progress, all while being swarmed by enemies. It's a bit rouge-like in that way.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 27 points 1 week ago

Basically a bunch of players are dropped into a game map, and normally your objective is to go around and collect as much loot as possible, then after some time or you're ready to leave, you need to find the extraction point - this will save your loot and that run is over.

Some extraction shooters are PvE, and some are PvP, some are both. If you get killed with all your loot before you get to the extraction point you lose it all. It can be pretty stressful, and unbalanced if its PvP where some players play much more then you do therefore have better weapons etc

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Because Embark knows how to make fun ass games. This and The Finals are just both an absolute blast to play with some friends.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not a big surprise. The genre is a niche, the hype has been building for years, and Arc Raiders looks like it scratches that itch many players want right now. Especially disillusioned Tarkov and Hunt Showdown players have high hopes for it. Anyone who‘s into multiplayer FPS knows The Finals is the freshest game in it‘s genre in over a decade so the devs have already proven they can make things at least interesting and fresh.

But again, the genre is a total niche with not much competition as of now. I think that‘s mostly why.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

And yet the article says Extraction Shooter over and over without mentioning what an Extraction Shooter is. Is this shit intentional, or do most game journalists just start some time after grade school?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Game journalists gave Pokemon Legends ZA an 8/10 on average. They often have no clue what they‘re writing about.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not the journalist's fault you are not aware of a decade old genre by now.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been looking into this recently because The Algorithm wanted me to (I don't always do what The Algorithm wants, but sometimes it's really fucking spot-on so maybe I'm just institutionalized) and I simply don't see why this is really any different from anything else available.

Is it really that much better? Is it the same thing just with better execution? As we've seen time and again, popular doesn't always mean good.

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My buddy keeps trying to get me into shooters. Most are boring as hell with almost zero gameplay innovation from games I played 20 years ago.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Im just waiting for a sequel to battlefield 2142. 2142 was peak fps for me and nothing has come close since.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Planetside 2 did it for me, but nothing since :/

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That and most of them now are GaaS scams.

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