this is cool to see, Mozilla is not being perfect, but its better than chromium still, personally using Zen because thats the best browser for me, if firefox dies, so does it, and I personally don't want that, this is a win, even if having it be opt out sucks
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where is the single user data collection and selling kill switch
"let me parrot what people say about chrome to ff"
appreciate how it's not buried in the options; it's right in the main menu in the settings page.
I think it's a good thing: we complained and they listened. FF is far from being perfect and I'm definitely not a fan of some of the decisions they made recently, but it's still the best browser out there. It's great that there is forks but they are only possible if FF base keeps being updated.
Same. This is easy for me and great for the best browser. Better late than never.
Moz: We're an AI first browser. There's AI in everything now!
Everyone: Boooo *uninstalls*
Moz: We're not an AI first browser. We've added these control features so you can reduce the AI.
Disable the AI*
After all that's the only reason for a "killswitch", no?
They should never have rolled out any of these AI features without this already implemented. I think it really speaks to their priorities that they rolled it out in this order.
Mozilla's CEO also recently said they would be building new products based on pre-established trust. I think they got their chronology wrong on that too...
Right, what trust? The trust they lost by putting dumbass MBAs in charge who don't know shit and chase short term profits over sustaining a healthy community?
Alternative interpretation: the CEO had the focus on pushing the imaginary game-changer and so the controls came later.
Better nate than the lever at least, especially when you look at chrome in comparison.
A Nate the Snake reference? Fsck yeahhhhhh
🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
As a Firefox user, this is not long-awaited. It's a tepid excuse for a dead project. The forks of Firefox are the only real alternatives if you value privacy over convenience. If you don't, then there are faster browers than FF anyway.
As a 10-year FF user, do you have any recomendations to what to switch to?
Waterfox if you want something that still feels like a modern browser, LibreWolf if you don't mind having stricter defaults. If you want the nuclear option, Mullvad browser is good, it is very inconvenient thoygh. At least for desktop. On mobile I use Vivaldi/Fennec/Vanadium depending on need
I tend to like Zen browser. It looks and feels a bit different, but to me that feels refreshing.
I went to Librefox. It has some harsh defaults that I ended up tuning, but so far it works well. Could just port over bookmarks and such.
I haven't personally yet, but a lot of people suggest switching to LibreWolf on PC and to either Fennec or Waterfox on mobile. At least on Android, since I can't be bothered to look up the availability on iOS.
on android ironfox is more similiar to librewolf
Too little, too late for me. I've already moved to Librewolf on everything with a GUI. Ironfox on my phone
There should never need to be a “kill switch” for a feature the developers have full control over.
Just make it opt-in. An AI kill switch makes me think that they’ve got a setting that will block all known AI interfaces and generated content, which is not what this does.
I was a Netscape navigator user back in the day, so I’ve come and gone from Firefox a few times. I already switched to librewolf on desktop and Vivaldi on mobile. I appreciate them doing this, but I’m not switching back until there’s another forcing function.
Did they ever tackle all the data collection they introduced? iirc it was opt out not opt in
The fact that they can’t find enough utility in AI to make people want to use it is telling.
They lost me already. I've migrated away from base Firefox.