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[–] emb@lemmy.world 186 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Hopefully this initiative sticks, sounds like my next phone (eventually) might just be Motorola/Graphene.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As long as they have basic shit like NFC or wireless charging. One of the main reasons I stopped buying them. 2nd was the tablet sized screens.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 44 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Because its grapheneos you will likely have NFC, but whether you have tap-for-payment options will be a crapshoot, especially in North America, unless having an official vendor changes things with grapheneos's play store integrity issue (which is doubtful).

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Best shot is that EU will make it possible, as they distance themselves from US tech right now.

[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Its an issue that, currently, banks have to resolve by either developing (see certain EU banks that have done so) or supporting an NFC card management app that doesn't require the highest level of the google play security thing to function.

I doubt EU legislation can fix this, and I doubt Canadian banks will care enough to do anything to support anything beyond apple pay and google pay.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Tap to pay is whatever but I do use NFC for some home automatons.

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[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I quite like my Razr. I'm sure if they're aiming to be a true alternative to the mainstream OSs, they'll be including many of the mainstream features

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[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 89 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Good, good. Next, tell me there will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and user-replaceable battery and we'll be golden.

[–] ernest314@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

their phones do tend to have that already...

e: at least the lower end ones I've had

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So interesting to me that it's the lower end phones that have the features I want

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

There will be a 3.5mm headphone jack, swappable SD card, and users replaceable battery.

[–] mikedd@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Help, I have turned to gold and cannot move or turn back.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

You bastard!

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[–] lmr0x61@lemmy.ml 72 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, Motorola may really make a comeback with this!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 54 points 3 weeks ago

Fantastic. Excellent news! I would expect nothing less.

[–] Kriznick@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

Whelp, looks like I'm going to Motorola

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 46 points 3 weeks ago

Well yeah. I doubt the GrapheneOS team would allow anything less.

[–] v4c4@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Probably a long shot, but I wish they added a headphone jack and sd card to these phones. These features would also benefit privacy.

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, a few of the Motorola phones do have headphone jacks and sd card ports, like the moto G. Which is why I'm really, really hoping those are the models supported.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've specifically heard that it's going to be a flagship chipset at first, especially, so it definitely won't be the Moto G line. I've heard it's going to be closer to the Moto Signature, which is like 3.3 Monero.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If they don't release this with a phone that has a headphone jack, they are dumber than a box of rocks. Motorola hardware is flat out not great, but the fact that their G line has a headphone jack and is one of main draws and the only reason I've bought them for my kids. If they do release a GrapheneOS compatible phone with a headphone jack, I'll likely end up buying a few of them for the family and it will be my go to recommendation to others.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I personally might not use a headphone jack or SD card slot very much, but for the market that a GrapheneOS phone would be targeting they seem like OBVIOUS things to include.

The crowd getting excited about this partnership is pretty much the same crowd that complains about features like those going away.

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[–] Tapirs_Are_AI_Slop@lemmy.org 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I've finally accepted the death of the 3.5mm jack. But no sd card is bullshit.

E/os is working for me tho. Realized I don't even need microG to have permissions for anything other than notifications and all my stuff works. All I really miss is the ability to chromecast music.

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I will never accept the death of the 3.5mm jack. I refuse to buy wireless ear buds as I know I will lose them. I need my tiny ear speakers to come with anti-misplacement cord technology.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FWIW, I thought the same thing. But then I bought some cheap Chinese buds and never lost a single one. I'm on my third or fourth set and still haven't come close to losing one.

Though I still won't pay for the premium priced ones.

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[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I use Bluetooth headphones on my phone most of the time, but I do still require a headphone jack as a backup. I used a phone without one for a while, and decided I need one on future phones, as well as a micro SD card (I need more than a tb of storage for my music and audiobooks).

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[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 weeks ago

Holy Hell!

This definitely will be on my shopping list. At the top. I hope they bring to all devices and not only higher end.

This news aligns quite well with the Levovo T series ThinkPad repairability.

Other major tech companies sail towards more and more closed environments.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] gnate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, they will.

[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's nice to get confirmation, though I really can't believe it had to be said. Sign of the times, I guess.

If they release one with a headphone jack I'm 100% sold.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 3 weeks ago

I expected no less.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Please make this the industry expected.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago
[–] razen@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

One of the main thing id size of phones, pixel has a series which are comparitevely smaller but I dont know if Moto has any small phones. If only moto make a small phone too, it will be awesome

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Will banking apps and NFC pay finally work?

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Doesn't that depend on google play services? If so, "probably not, but then again it works currently if you install play services on a separate user profile (or on your main, defeating the purpose of grapheneOS to begin with but more power to you)."

Tell google/banks to stop requiring the spyware, they won't but at least it's better then telling the secure OS to install just a little spyware just so you don't need to carry a wallet.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago

When is it gonna come out?

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 9 points 3 weeks ago

Stop, I can only get so erect

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I too am curious, imo the headphone jack removal was the first sign of enshitification.

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[–] fdnomad@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Does anyone know when such devices are expected to hit the market? Within 2 years would be nice

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