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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 31 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"Corruption" is the word you were looking for.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 hour ago

Yes, but that would take work.

This is tech journalism. If evidence connecting something can't be Googled in 30 seconds, it's just an area of speculation.

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 15 points 2 hours ago

ah so don't buy a netgear router because the US Government will be listening in/watching. got it.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

It's called lobbyist, and if you don't like it, better accept it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 47 points 7 hours ago

Two possible reasons:

They agreed to installation of American spyware, probably not limited to models sold in the US, or they paid their dues to Trump, and he called the FCC.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Spyware preinstalled. Has to be.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well netgear has a stellar reputation for screwing up their firmware horribly so if they are involved in implementing the implant it absolutely will be noticed.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Alternatively, if it suddenly starts working, we know they aren't writing it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Are they better than they were 2 decades ago?

Cause last time I had a netgear router, they screwed up their hardware too.. Fucker got so hot that it literally liquefied its plastic shell.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 142 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like netgear routers are now 100% confirmed to be compromised with backdoors instead of just being probable

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Time to flash the old Netgear router with some open source firmware.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Yep, but unfortunately it's not always as straight forward as it may sound. Plus, with routers becoming more difficult to acquire, it'll only get harder and harder to pull off. But there's OpenWRT and dd-WRT that work with a pretty decent range of routers as well as ASUS Merlin for many ASUS routers. Then, if you want to get nerdy with it and build your own router from an old computer, there's OPNsense and pfSense. Eventually it'll come down to these two if the ban is longterm and you want any semblance of obfuscation online...

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

GL.iNet are flashable and come with their fork of OpenWRT out of the box. I run the latest regular OpenWRT on mine.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

A iot lightbulb can be a router.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Yes, OPNsense is excellent if you have a spare computer to run it. Then you can repurpose your consumer router as a WiFi access point. I still feel safer flashing the old WiFi router with open firmware before using it even as a WAP.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

Great, now I just need everyone else to do this, I can have the greatest most rebust setup imaginable, what am I gonna use it for? To talk to the other two people with similar setups?

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

I tried getting into the nerdy side. I have an old PC with only one NIC, but apparently it needs two in order to bridge to a WiFi AP? That makes sense, but I don’t have an old PC with two NICs. Also, my NIC doesn’t support as much bandwidth as I have supplied anyhow. Sad times.

[–] claymore@pawb.social 4 points 4 hours ago

USB network cards are even cheaper than PCIE if you don't mind lower performance (if you don't have USB3 ports you're limited to theoretical 480Mbit)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago

If it's a desktop PC you can buy a PCIe card with multiple Ethernet ports pretty cheap, especially if you buy used.

[–] RadicalRebel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well ya, you need at least two NICs to properly setup a firewall. Additionally, since NICs are the most crucial piece of hardware for routers and firewalls, it'll only be as good as the hardware it runs on. Older NICs lead to regular crashes and/or slow network speeds. So swapping the original NIC out and adding another is VERY typical when repurposing old PCs as a router. The most common options for NICs I've seen are the Intel I350-T2 and I350-T4. Ironically, they cost about as much as a decent router, but going this route actually puts you in control of your home network!

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

you need at least two NICs to properly setup a firewall.

I'm not sure I'd recommend it, but two (or more) VLANs on a single NIC would work fine too. This setup is usually referred to as "router on a stick"

I'm not sure about other OSes or Linux distros, but it's easy to add multiple VLANs on Debian. You load the 8021q kernel module, then add interfaces suffixed with the VLAN ID (e.g. if your NIC is ens3, you'd add ens3.10 to /etc/network/interfaces for VLAN 10). You'd also need to make sure the switch port is configured to allow VLAN10.

Older NICs lead to regular crashes and/or slow network speeds.

but the ones you're suggesting (I350-T2 and -T4) are 12 years old.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 99 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 38 points 9 hours ago

Except they don't even bother with the table anymore.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 97 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

First winner of the Netgear Peace Prize to be announced shortly.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Made me snort with that one

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 100 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There's a reason and the reason will likely be revealed to be kickbacks and payoffs.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 70 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Corruption is pretty obvious these days.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It may always have been, its just more obvious than before.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 7 points 9 hours ago

Yeah this. They're not trying to hide it anymore. Just 10 years ago corruption may have required journalistic effort to uncover, now the admin yokels just shout it from the rooftops, hoping to "trigger the libs".

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 52 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Gonna be really funny when it's revealed in 5 years that Netgear routers have a backdoor for the Chinese govt and the US okayed it because of the money the Trump admin got.

It's literally the type of corruption that was claimed China would do for the last 4 decades.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I get the aching feeling its because Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit, or to just funnel all user traffic to ICE

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Netgear likely agreed to some backdoor shit

If that's how you win Trump's favor, count me out forever.

[–] Resplendent606@piefed.social 32 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This tells me Netgear probably bent the knee and kissed the ring.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

paid that troll toll.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

No que por los dos?

[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

"Had its backdoor opened" rather. It's the Epstein class we're dealing with here.

[–] fletcher_bosom@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago

Extortion is one reason.

[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago
[–] gukleszl4hs48ughgxhr5xgd@fedia.io 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Makes sense that it would be one of the shittiest corps :/

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

Who makes good consumer network gear? I feel like the two big names (NetGear and TP-Link) are both awful

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