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[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Back in 2019 I lost 60 lbs in about 6 months without GLP-1. Fucking sucked like hell but I did it. But don’t worry, I found it again.

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Sounds like it's possible to buy a house without help from family. Some people do achieve it but most people will benefit from the help.

[–] mech@feddit.org 20 points 9 hours ago

This headline is 100% peak NotTheOnion 👌

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I actually unironically thought that was an headline from The Onion.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I 100% assumed this was from the onion instance

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago

Ok but the research is actually interesting. I'm very much a supporter of weight loss by healthy lifestyle and calorie reduction (it's how I obtained and maintain a healthy weight), and even for aiming for a healthier lifestyle even if one doesn't care about reducing weight (your body is your business, I'm just pro healthy lifestyle). But for those actively interested in weight loss who are finding themselves unable to stick to a reduced calorie diet I support them having the access to the tools that can help.

I've known people who wound up fat for a variety of reasons, from thyroid issues, to stressful lifestyles, to disabilities and chronic pain, to genetic propensity, and plenty of other reasons. And when I think about how much happier with himself my friend was after his stomach band helped him lose a ton of weight and then stay thin, it's just hard for me to not stand by the understanding that while what worked for me is the best first thing to try, I just want people to be happy with their bodies.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 151 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (10 children)

I'm always baffled by the lack of curiosity around this subject. It's just blame the victim for being obese. Just eat less, bro! and then defend that viewpoint to the death. There never seems to be a point where the question comes up "I wonder why only in the last 30 years or so that the western world has seen this dramatic increase in obesity?" Can't be large food corporations making cheap unhealthy foods highly addictive. Can't be a significant reduction in nutrition education. Can't be a reduction in access to mental healthcare.

Nope. Just fatty goin' to be fat. Such a fucking lazy take.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

There’s actually a phenomenon where Americans move abroad, and suddenly start losing a ton of weight. Not because they consciously changed their eating habits, but simply because the food that is available in the foreign stores and restaurants is healthier.

American grocery stores tend to prioritize convenience and unhealthy foods. You have to really search to find anything that is worthwhile, even when the store is packed full of food. There’s a ton of variety in American grocery stores, (Europeans are always baffled by the entire aisle dedicated to breakfast cereals), but basically none of it is healthy. So Americans naturally end up buying lots of unhealthy shit, simply because it’s all they realistically have access to.

But then that gets flipped on its head when those Americans move abroad. Suddenly, the stores they’re shopping at aren’t full of junk. And so they naturally start losing lots of weight. Many Europeans assume that Americans are simply complacent with their weight, but the reality is that the entire infrastructure surrounding them is singularly focused on keeping them fat.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, also walking to the store, walking to work. I don't use my car much - arranged my life so that I can get everywhere I need to, mostly, without driving but that is unusual as fuck where I live, everyone else in my office arrives by car. I am not usually the only bike in the rack at the grocery but maybe 3, 4 bikes and a hundred cars in the lot. No bike rack at my doctors' offices, nor dentist, nor aesthetician. None at restaurants.

Walking a lot or even biking on e-bike everywhere like I do, makes a difference in what you can eat without getting fat. But also I cook at home, from ingredients, do make sweet stuff for the kids & husband but don't like it much myself. Grow some of our food, and lunch biggest meal.

I don't think it's impossible here, to have a reasonable lifestyle, I do it and am not an unusual person, not super rich or super ambitious or determined. I do think it's more difficult and you have to be intentional AND either be lucky (city grew up around me) or flush with money, to create a life that is the "fifteen minute bubble" with everything nearby.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

arranged my life so that I can get everywhere I need to, mostly, without driving….

So did I; unfortunately that means not having to leave my house. So I offset that with self-mandated walks and runs.

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

I saw that recently in a video about food in Japan. Japanese people going to Western countries and gaining like 25 pounds in a couple of months, then returning to Japan and shedding it within weeks.

Sugar content, portion size, nutrition vs empty calories and other factors...

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Everything you mentioned, PLUS:

  • Increase in stress, leading to "grazing" eating
  • increase in corn subsidizes that make HFCS cheaper to add than honey or even sugar
  • the campaign against Fat as a flavor enhancer, which pushes companies towards sugar in the first place. Fat, for the most part, passes through you whereas sugar is metabolized
  • decrease in walkable cities, or even walking trails. Combined with people having less time to use them.
  • unfettered algorithm that prioritizes engagement to keep people in front of their screens, this less physically active

The list goes on.

The single most important thing everyone can do is take a walk. I make sure I do this rain or shine, even if it's down the block and back.

GLP-1 and other "weight lost methods" gain popularity in the US due to our population's proclivity of saying "I want x, but I don't want to change anything about me." In other words, "I want to lose weight but don't want to change my lifestyle."

Study after study has shown that slow, gradual, and intentional weight loss is healthier and will last longer than any fad, drug, or food plan.

Not only will your body naturally learn what it means to eat and be healthy, you'll actually feel better too.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

One criticism of this analysis (which I think is mostly spot on) those GLP drugs help people change their lifestyle by turning off the 'food noise'. They don't, by themselves, make anyone lose weight. They help people who overeat be not hungry all the time so that they can eat better and work out more - it's the eating better and working out more that is causing the weight loss.

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[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I've noticed first hand the impact of environmental factors.

I moved from a place where I needed the car for EVERYTHING. This include taking off the garbage. Even going for a walk wasn't possible without taking the car first.

Most of the food I was eating was imported (mainly from the US). I was able to find few local fruits and vegetable but choices are quite limited and the supply erratic.

Then I moved back to France, I now live in a small village where everything is available at a walking or biking distance. School, work, small grocery shop, bakery, doctor, pharmacy, coworking space, kids activity. I'm might be using the car once a week now.

There is plenty of farmers in the area with local produces and even supermarkets have a wide selection of decent fruits and vegetables but I prefer the local producers as I can.

I stopped working out, I have not purposely changed my eating habits but without any surprise I am in a much, much better physical shape now.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I moved from a place where I needed the car for EVERYTHING. This include taking off the garbage. Even going for a walk wasn't possible without taking the car first.

This is something that can be difficult to convey to non-Americans. The go-to assumption is that Americans are just lazy and dislike walking. At my last apartment, it was literally illegal (and wildly dangerous) for me to realistically walk to my local grocery store. I had to cross a major highway to get there, and there were no sidewalks or crosswalks nearby.

If I wanted to drive to the store, it was a quarter mile. Half a mile for the round trip. Basically just across the highway. Go down to the end of my street, cross the highway, and arrive at the store. Easy.

If I wanted to legally walk to the grocery store, it would be a 16.5 mile round trip. Because the nearest pedestrian highway crossing was ~4 miles away. I’d have to go all the way down to that crossing, make the cross, then march all the way back to reach the store. And that also assumes that I’m going to be able to legally make it to the crossing… There were several sections between my apartment and the crossing that had no sidewalks, so I’d have to walk in the road for at least a mile in each direction. Here is a quick and dirty diagram to illustrate what I mean:

That’s ~8 and a quarter miles in one direction, not to mention the fact that I’d then have to take the same route back, with my arms full of grocery bags. Yeah, it’s no fucking wonder that I choose to drive instead.

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[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Just eat less? Golly, why didn't I think of that? So simple!

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

Also if you have basically an addiction to food, this is like telling a drug addict "just use less heroin!" And the survival rate of withdrawals from stopping cold turkey with food is approximately 0%. So you will be managing that addiction for your entire life.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Can't forget metabolic disorders too. I'm a T2 diabetic. Well controlled, to the point I've had a few doctors literally not believe I was diabetic (at the time my A1c was like 5.1, a decade later it's generally between 5.5 and 6). I'm pretty strict with my diet. I occasionally will fall into snacking, but when that happens, I literally just stop buying snacks altogether to prevent it.

I eat the same meals often, and roughly track my calories. I do intense workouts weekly, and roughly tracking via my fitness watch indicates that I'm burning around 800kcals per HIIT cardio workout 2-3x per week most weeks, plus my other sessions with weight training. I'm taking in probably 1800 calories give or take most days, and burning off over an entire extra day and a half worth of calories weekly. But I'm still struggling to lose weight. Even at what should be a high caloric deficit where I'm feeling regularly straight up ravenous, it took me a year to lose around 15 lbs, and my weight still flip flops up and down weekly, even though the overall trend is downward.

I'm a big believer in fitness, in the idea of calories in -> calories out, and managing my TDEE. But it's just downright harder for some folks, and I'm apparently one of them.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Without a doubt.

Addicted to alcohol? Stop drinking. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to cigarettes? Stop smoking. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to crack? Stop smoking crack. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to food? Must be your fault for being weak-willed. Just don't consume so much of that thing that you're addicted to. You can control your addiction. Just stop being a loser...

The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey. One Day At A Time. But you can't stop eating food.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (7 children)

I've always been baffled by how people keep their weight off so easily. I live in a walkable city, love walking, walk everywhere as my primary means of transport, and frequently take 3-5km leisure walks multiple times a week. Yet I only ever seem to gain weight, it's beyond maddening. My meals are nothing outrageous either

Of course, my weight is the first thing my doctor points out every time like I'm not keenly aware of how much my body hates me...

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you healthy? I am thin but not as much as I'd like (mental issue) and always have to remind myself that the result of a healthy lifestyle is a healthy body. Not one that necessarily looks like your ideal form. I can walk & dance, stand on my hands & cartwheel, eat healthy, exercise and work on athletic goals not size goals.

If you are happy with your lifestyle and feel like you are nourishing your body and exercising it, weight lands in different places for different people (or as I found, different for same person at different ages.) But you feel good? That seems like a good result.

If you don't feel good, that is when I would push the doctor for more tests to figure out what the heck is going on.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'm a performer! I do yoga every night and am generally active. No major health issues, just unhappy I can't fit into old clothes and tired of my doctor bringing it up

What's funny is that there are fantastic performers who are much, much larger than me, which further shows the disconnect between effort and result

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

"pEOple WeRe jUsT mORe ActiVe iN thE PasT"

I call bullshit. Like sure, in the early 1900's and before, people were more active. But in the 60's, 70's, and 80's? We had cars. People still used them a lot instead of walking. People still chose to sit and watch TV, or read, or listen to music. People still worked in offices and spent the majority of their day sitting. The average number of steps between a person back then and today is really not that different. Maybe a bit higher, but no where even fucking close to explaining the obesity epidemic.

Claims that the extreme increase in obesity is simply due to increased sedentary lifestyle just fucking reeks of lobbied attempts to shift the blame from the real problem.

It's the food, stupid. High-volume processed bullshit with low-cost additives and filler ingredients SWARMED the shelves and replaced nearly every good product with unhealthy convenience with a longer shelf-life. Our portion sizes didn't even change that much, it's just the quality of what we're eating has dropped tremendously.

You can't even fully escape it by trying to only buy fresh food. Modern fruits and vegetables have been bred to be full of sugars and starches. Raw chicken is pumped full of salt and preservatives, sometimes making up more than 30% of its weight.

They are poisoning people and then blaming them for the consequences.

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 6 points 10 hours ago

Headline is dumb, content is not

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 167 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

What an incredibly fucking stupid headline.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 89 points 20 hours ago

"The mindset right now is that the GLP-1 hormone itself is the secret sauce to weight loss," DiMarchi said. "What we've found in rodents and monkeys is that the combination of glucagon and GIP activity alone are sufficient to achieve comparable weight loss, without the lengthy dosage adjustment and adverse GI side effects

This article is saying that slightly different products can also produce weight loss.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 34 points 18 hours ago

What a breakthrough, as we know no one ever lost weight before 5 years back or whenever these stupid drugs came out.

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