Op would love Finland. Only ever talked to one stranger (who is now my wife) and the only thing we shake is the umbrella. And booze, well you will need it too.
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introverted and alcoholic? Please tell me more about this wonderful place called Finland
Only ever talked to one stranger
Scandalous!
no. Scandinavian
I felt this way in my own home culture as well. I grew up in a red bubble in a blue state in the US, where the underlying currents were no more than “conformity and hometown pride.” Oddly, the only things to be “proud” of were conformity itself and high school football (the pride-surrogate of adults with nothing better to celebrate.) It was all so hollow, and when 9/11 happened it all turned up to… well, 11. Being 12 and saying, “I don’t think this war makes sense” was enough to ostracize one’s self and be bombarded with the brain-dead argument of, “iF yOu hAtE AMURICA tHeN yOu cAn JuSt LEAVE!” Yeah okay, parrot. It was always obvious the kids just absorbed whatever mindless take their parents said (which was, itself, picked up from other people or Fox News.)
Man, thinking of my hometown always brings out a rant… Anyway, I grew up always feeling like a stranger in my own home, bullied and cast aside for not being like the rest. Thank goodness I was able to GTFO and meet people who use their brains as more than a copy/paste bin for other people’s thoughts.
lol. same upbringing. nobody understands how common this is in most of small town america. probably because they only 'small towns' they are familiar with are all the tourist spots, which are not really small town at all because they are full of city people.
i went from being suicidal everyday to actually being happy and feeling good... because i got out. I was in tears i was so happy my first week in college, of being free from all that horrible ignorant bullshit. people really do not get how utterly provincial these places are.
god my primary/secondary education was so AWFUL too. nobody in the entire system had any legit knowledge. it was all just deadbeat losers whose biggest goal and achievement in was going to a pro sports game and being bitter about life that other people actually did something with theirs.
sadly a lot of my friends dropped out of college because it was 'too hard' to think for themselves and they ended up moving home, getting shitty local jobs usually working for their dad, and just popping out 2-3 kids by 24 and just repeating the cycle.
I understand anon. I understand. 😶
It's a similar experience being an introvert who isn't into sports in Australia.
I'm mostly baffled that when people don't even understand the concept of "not liking sports" I have a lot of smalltalk at work with dudes and it's always something like: wait, so you have no idea who won the football game? What happened?
Oh i don't watch football.
Never?
Nope, i have never seen a football match.
Huh. So you just watch the big games.
No, never.
But you watch the World championship.
No.
Not even when your country plays?
Is it still millionaires chasing a ball in a really boring manner? Then still no.
It's not even just sports, somehow, some people can't comprehend that someone doesn't like or even know of "insert mainstream thing". C'mon, stop pretending you don't know famous artist who sells out stadiums. For fucks sake, why would i? I maybe read their name at some point or maybe a song was once playing in a mall, but other than that we don't live the same life.
Turns out these people identify with the teams and feel a victory as if it was their own. The "We won!" crowd. Some other folks have a stronger separation between self and other and don't have any emotional attachment with some sports team that did something.
Turns out these people identify with the teams and feel a victory as if it was their own.
to be fair, they make financial contributions to the club via merch, ticket sales, etc, which in turn impacts the success a team can achieve by spending that money
Fine, if you don't like sports we can talk about the stock market. Tesla and Palantir, bro. Oil futures to the moon. Selling reverse vix puts. Alpha beta gamma I'm going to be rich.
I often think about just fighting fire with fire.
Do you think the God emperor is needed to power the warp or is that juat propaganda?
What do you mean you don't know warhammer?
So you only know the lore before the warp?
Surely you know the Horus heresy?
That's weird, there are like 300 books about it.
I hate that the end of every news segment on radio and TV ends in "sports".
Sports is not fucking news. Stop wasting our fucking time perpetuating a tribalist game
indeed, came to point this out, nothing much has changed in 1000s of years though. Pie 'n footy os the new Bread 'n Circuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses
Juvenal originally used it to decry the "selfishness" of common people and their neglect of wider concerns. The phrase implies a population's erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority
Loving in Has main a the biggest concern of the public is a es AFL football stadium and yet we have the worst health outcomes, the worst educational outcomes etc etc
anywhere densely populated really
To be fair, if you go out to a loud party you're not likely to meet many introverts there - they'll all be at home, unless their own extravert friend dragged them out to the party.
Oh god. Very close to me. Exactly why I left and refuse to date latinas and for the most part make friends with latinos.
A bit over the top tho. You can definetly be a ladies man even if you don't dance. Not easy as if you dance, but totally doable.
Now to the serious thing:
Fake: Anon has internet in Colombia Gay: Anon dosn't like booty.
~~Before you downvote me, I am Colombian and don't really dance to anything remotely latin~~
While not the stereotypical extrovert, I experience the opposite in my country.
I think, on a world wide scale, I would be considered very introverted, but by Danish standards I'm too social. I've become more introverted over time because it is too exhausting trying to get something going with people around me. Danes make all their friends in their youth and then they close the gates at 30 and never allow in any other new friendships or acquaintances ever again. And if they do, it's against their will.
We moved into a new neighborhood five months ago, and I still don't know anyone. Our closest neighbors have politely demonstrated that they desire to not know me despite my attempts at getting to know them and I am self aware enough to know when to just let it go and avoid thing becoming uncomfortable.
It really sucks, because I always dreamed of having good relationships with my neighbors and inviting people over for cook outs or something. But Danes are hermit crabs.
I had it confirmed when I befriended a Ukrainian refugee who told me that in the two years he had been a refugee in Denmark, I had literally been the only Dane to bother to get to know him and been friendly and open to him. Told him that I'm also a very shitty Dane.
So yeah, I dunno what it's like to be an introvert stuck in an extrovert society. But I do know what it's like to be extroverted introvert in a hyper introverted society and that sucks as well, because you end up becoming very, very lonely if you don't hit the jackpot with evergreen friendships when you still have your milk teeth.
On the other hand, growing up in this kind of culture, I've now been forged into the rare introvert who can dance, sing, and has amazing people skills when needed.
It's draining, but useful.
As a Brazilian, I can relate
Move to England, we will still think you are an extrovert
In Finland you'll be treated for mania
I always wondered how it is to be an introvert in such "loud" cultures. Now my guess is confirmed.
I can feel this to an uncomfortable level.
Same thing in sweden when I grew up there, except nobody dances, nobody did booty shakes, only football and drinking 😑😔.
I left.
Where did you go that Sweden is considered extroverted? Finland?
I've travelled to a few countries in Europe. Spain may not be Latin America, but it definitely seemed to have a noticeably more extroverted culture than the other countries I visited: multiple strangers started talking to me on the streets and in grocery stores and such, even though my Spanish is terrible, and I remember even the bus drivers being particularly friendly.
I really liked the Jodel app many years ago. Hyperlocal social media that led me to meet and interact with quite a few interesting people that i would never meet in a bar. Okay i am maybe not that introvert, but i hate disco shaky booty
My ex was Latina, and when we were getting to know each other I mentioned I'm pretty introverted, and I had to explain to her what it meant. She said it doesn't exist in Latino culture and there are no Latino introverts. I told her she probably calls them alcoholics. That seemed to resonate.
Latin American introvert here, I can't begin to tell you how much my life changed for the better when I realized I just hate people and have no real reason to pursue extrovert goals. Also people like you more when you're not trying.
Never felt more identified with a post. I've been saying this for a while and all they tell me is "just dance!" :(