Well I guess Google will have a hard time resting then because it is nowhere in my home.
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Ugh. Even if I wanted this product, their track record on long term product support has erased my trust. They never fixed connectivity for the Chromecast and now they've discontinued it. Why am I gonna buy something that breaks down or gets an expensive subscription in a couple of years.
Plus, if I post a video their stakeholders don't like on YouTube I risk getting locked out of every Google service including Gemini, all by automated processes and with no way to even talk to a human to explain my case. They are judge, jury and executioner within their ecosystem.
Let them be tired then.
I don't care how much Google pushes Gemini. I trust any chinese company more
They’re messing with Gmail, Google Sheets and Calendar a bit much for my comfort, my business relies on these to work with no change to any part of the product and perfectly. Adding non deterministic tools to these is them walking on a tight rope as I won’t be dealing with fallout from the mistakes and issues caused due to Google spiking unsolicited non opt out “features” to my business workflow.
Just wait a year or two and Google will kill Gemini on their own.
As they say, "no rest for the wicked."
The HomeAssistant ecosystem is a lot neater, it lets you do what you want without billionaires screwing with your life.
I had to install an app on my TV for the first time in ages. There was no way to proceed without allowing Gemini. The main change seems to be other speakers in the house now make comments on my app choices.
Sounds like time to RMA the product, as you got something other than what you purchased.
"Hey Co-Pilot, remove Gemini"
"Hey Gemini, remove Co-Pilot"
Let them fight it out. 😉
They gon get tired then.

They're going to kill their name brand of "googling" things
That seems to have already happened. My kids and their gaggle of teenage friends never utter the name of that company that I've heard. The phrase "search it up" is common.
Highly recommend people leave Google services. Use Ente to store photos. Proton for email. DuckDuckGo or Ecosia for search. Organic Maps for directions. FreeTube or yewtu.be for videos. Venice AI as your advanced chatbot. Google needs to be broken up and regulated.
Other options:
- Tuta for email
- CoMaps for maps and directions on your phone
- Nextcloud for self hosted cloud and pictures
- ublock origin and sponsor block to browse YT in a non chromium browser.
OsmAnd+ for mobile maps
Never heard of Venice AI, asked it what it does different, one of the things it said was:
I don't need to be politically correct or "woke" in my responses
Fuck that shit
I'm slowly working on getting away from Google, but unfortunately, Organic Maps doesn't offer public transit directions/schedules in my region, and since I don't have a car, that's like 80% of what I use Google Maps for.
Check if CoMaps can work for you in your city. If you want a closed source app: Transit is amazing for bus and subway live arrival times
i never had gmail or used google search. but i dont save my info on anyone else's server anymore. i use nextcloud hosted on my server, i use immich for my photos. calibre server for my books. everything is mine
Youre not wrong at all but I've found people won't deal with the slightest inconvenience. Quite sad.
I think alot of folks have been going the other direction considering it doesn't work nearly as well as the old assistant. When they pushed the new shit to the Google home devices and everything stopped working we just stopped using it and have no desire to go back.
ain't no fucking google or gemini (except the gemini protocol, which is super cool) coming to my home
Looks like google has a lotta sleepless nights ahead.
Anyone who didn't learn their lesson from the Nest debacle is a fool. I would never let another Google device into my home.
What happened with Nest?
They killed off their first and second gen thermostats for no good reason.
They also sold off their smoke detector business.
Amongst all the other things they’ve killed.
https://9to5google.com/2023/05/07/google-failing-nest/
https://talk.tidbits.com/t/google-kills-off-nest-security-ecosystem/26216
https://www.howtogeek.com/884735/google-is-shutting-down-some-old-nest-devices-and-services/
Seems like every year or so Google messes with it and fucks over customers in the process.
But it is so bad. I don’t understand how with all the data they have about everyone their Gemini integrations in their products suck so much. Can’t make a proper task from the email list. Can’t find docs related to meetings. It is all literally in their systems.
Their product managers are so shortsighted. Jam half-assed stuff and pat themselves on the back.
I know people will probably disagree but I like the fact that Apple has stepped back on AI and slowed down. I suspect once they finally release something. It may actually be useful and probably opt-in/out. Whether the op-out is actually real is another debate.
Take Gemini out of it... Lets say you get spam in Gmail and you mark it "Block Sender".
It doesn't actually block them, it just routes it to the Spam folder. If you're super lucky, it routes it to Trash. At no point are they blocked from sending to you.
LOL also "All Mail" is NOT all mail. And their search function is and has been broken for as long as I can remember. How Google continues to fuck up such basic functions of their core products and yet people will shell out to use it, I will never understand.
Google is a company with datacenters. It never rested anyway.
Also, f- these “AI” (surveillance mics)
May they never rest.
Can't if I don't have any of your stupid hardware.
Can if everyone else integrates it into their hardware (see Apple Siri integrating Gemini, and likely upcoming contracts with Samsung and LG to bake it into household appliances).
I’ve been finding it more and more difficult to find household electronics for sale that don’t have Alphabet products baked in.
Ah shit I forget about non-Google phones being infected. I've got Apple AI or whatever it's called turned off, I guess it's time to really think about the convenient-to-privacy ratio and decide where I stand.
Consider a Pixel and GrapheneOS. Or whatever ends up happening with GrapheneOS on Motorola phones.
I won't be having none of these fuckin' Googlers enterin' my home.
cocks gun
Get rested, bitch.
What's neat, is that I can't holler and turn off my lights anymore, but now I also need to watch what I say about our glorious leadership.
It's honestly been a little disruptive in the car, which is one of my favorite places to be disrupted.
to be fair amazon is the same with alexa+
No. Just no. I trusted Google in the past. Never again.
Good luck with that goofle. I have no goofle account nor smart devices.
Aaah… a restless future Google whants…
