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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 138 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lemmy does not understand that people are leaving X cuz of Nazis, not cuz it’s a centralized corpo platform.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure a significant portion of nazis are also moving to bluesky

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But on Bluesky you don't get them shoved in your face and there is culture of just blocking Nazis and moving on.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ignoring the Nazis in the room, rather than barring them from entey, is enabling Nazis

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

They aren't being ignored. Bluesky has real moderation, they are being banned.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If no one gives the Nazi an audience they will go away eventually.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But they don't. They just formm small communities and slowly work their way back up to power.

Might take 50+ years, but it'll happen again and again until crushed out.

I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."

And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."

And i was like, ohok and he continues.

"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

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[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

If they get blocked constantly chances are they are also getting reported for their behaviour and eventually banned.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago

Elon turned it into his own personal Nazi blog where people can't block him.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago

To a platform that has been on the record about not kicking ouy Nazis, though.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago

There were Nazis on X for years before this. They're leaving because Trump won.