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I'm so sure that this will happen...

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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 142 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (5 children)

Aka they save on delivery costs and your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no.

That would be true if any of this self driving shit actually existed, but it doesn't. Elmo lies. A lot. About everything. So this? He's just lying again .

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago

It does, and I've heard its safer than humans in some cases, but there's legal issues in the way. Like if a driverless car kills someone, who's fault is it?

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 53 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Imagine it gets into an accident lol.

Who gets charged?

If you thought insurance was expensive before....

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago

"we planned for this edge case, and have programmed the vehicle to quickly leave the scene of any accident where a driver is not present. by accepting delivery (by purchasing a vehicle) you accept that all vehicles are sold as-is. tesla insurance customers get half-off repair claim deductibles for the first 7 days."

Surely it would be Tesla since you don't actually have possession of it, right? Right??

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

It’s not happening.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If it waives the destination fee, then I don't see it as a bad problem depending on how much it would normally cost to deliver vs how many miles.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

It doesnt waive that fee because it is a federally required fee to be applied to all vehicles regardless of their... destination. Uhg.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Dealers: charge bullshit fee

Mftr: "get rid of this bullshit fee by racking up miles right from the factory"

Customer: "this is such a phenomenal deal!"

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Eh, I live <1k miles from a Tesla factory, and I wouldn't be too annoyed at having 1k miles on it when it gets to me. Knock the price down a bit since you no longer need to ship it everywhere and we're good.

We all know this isn't happening anytime soon, so I guess it's only a hypothetical. We can talk once it's a reality.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'd want whatever the warranty was to be the same plus the miles.

So if it's 5 year 50k miles and I get it at 1k, I 'd want 5 year 51k miles.

I suppose that's fair. But you're unlikely to see much difference with 1k miles.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

bullshit fee

Do you think shipping and transportation of goods is free? Do you think truck drivers drive stuff around out of the goodness of their hearts?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, but it also isn't my problem. Roll it into the price of the car, like everything else, and it can be part of the price that you can discuss and haggle over. Coming to a 50k price just to see another 1k+ this and 1.5k that tacked on is absolute bullshit.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Except that not every place is next to the car factory. Delivery to Portland, Maine is going to be a much different price in comparison to Austin, Texas. Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price? Do you know that those vary from location to location as well?

[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Do you also expect the cost of titling and taxes be included in the advertised price?

As a European, yes. Absolutely fucking yes. I drove a Model 3 away (a while ago obviously) with all papers in order paying exactly the listed price.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When did I say that every place was near an assembly line...? I said 'not my problem'. It's a company, they can figure it out.

And yes, yes I do. Again, not my problem. It's almost like different locations can set different prices or something to compensate for variables. Amazing, what a concept!

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Advertising cars would never be feasible on nationally broadcast TV under your system.

They did figure out the problem though. Price set by the manufacture, show cost for delivery on the window sticker, then when you buy they car the title and tax are figured out for where you live. It's the fairest and easiest way of showing and figuring the price. If you can't figure out that window stickers are available online and the tax and title yourself before you buy, that's a you problem. It's not on the seller nor the manufacturer to post pricing for every state or municipality.

If you want cleaner pricing, demand an end to titling and car taxes.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

I'd be fine if there were no more car ads tbh. Sounds like another "not my problem".

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

your new car racks up miles on your own dime before you even get to drive it.

What? LOL You would prefer to coordinate to have someone drive you over and then drive it back home for the pleasure of...watching the miles roll over in traffic?

[–] moncharleskey@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ever used your eyes while driving? You've probably seen those car transport semis loaded up with new vehicles, transporting them to dealerships.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago

I see where the confusion from. The OP says "from the factory floor", but that was never said.

In a new post on X by the official Tesla account, it posted "One day it'll drive itself right to your house" to which CEO Elon Musk replied with a simple "this year".

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Have you never had something delivered to you before? Does the amazon driver pick you up and take you to the warehouse so you can personally pick up your package?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Are you under the impression that Tesla operates a concierge service that picks you up from your home?

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

No. What I’m saying is you can have the car delivered to you without it racking up miles by carrying it on a semi. Having it drive itself to you starts depreciation before you even get to ride in it, not to mention the warranty limits based on mileage. What you said in your original comment about expecting to be picked up so you can drive it back home is ridiculous, that's why I responded with an equally ridiculous scenario.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Okay so the car driving itself to you is ridiculous. Having someone drop you off to pick up the vehicle is ridiculous. How does the car get to your house without being ridiculous, exactly?

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

By being delivered on a truck? Not sure if this is a regional thing if you’re not in the US, but it’s not unusual to get a car delivered to your house on a flatbed truck or semi in the US. How do you think cars get transported around the country?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They get delivered to the dealership, not your house?

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You can absolutely get a new car delivered to your house even if you buy from a dealership. Either way, the topic of discussion in this thread is having the car drive itself to your house, not to the dealership for you to pick it up.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You can absolutely get a new car delivered to your house

I've never heard of this.

the topic of discussion in this thread is having the car drive itself to your house, not to the dealership for you to pick it up.

Yes, that was my point. 🤷‍♂️

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve never heard of this.

Now you have. You can even get a used car delivered to your house and have your old car taken away at the same time if you are trading it in.

Yes, that was my point

Ok? So what was the point of your first comment? Anyway, I think this conversation is going around in circles, and it seems like it was just because you weren't aware a car can be delivered straight to your house, instead of having it drive by itself and rack up miles and wear and tear before you even get to ride in it.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Ok? So what was the point of your first comment?

I really don't know how to be more clear about this without just repeating things I've already said.

you weren't aware a car can be delivered straight to your house

I wasn't "unaware" that it was possible, I've just never even heard of that happening. Every car I've ever bought and every car I've seen someone else buy had to be picked up from somewhere.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure Tesla has offered delivery to a home pretty much from the very beginning. I remember they had some money back guarantee when they announced it because obviously you can't test drive if you don't go to a dealership.

You may recall Tesla started out with basically no dealerships, and this was one of the first options for getting one outside of major city centers.

https://www.tesla.com/support/taking-delivery

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even see what point you're trying to make. All I said in my first comment is that having the car drive itself from the factory to your house saves Tesla the hassle of delivering it to you, and it will put unnecessary miles and wear & tear on the car before you even get to drive it.

That was my first comment right? Now look at your reply to that. So I explained that a car can be delivered to your house on a flatbed truck where it won't put on said unnecessary miles and wear & tear. No imaginary special concierge needed to pick you up and take you to a dealership to get your car. Do you agree? If yes, then I think the conversation has reached a conclusion.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago

Please. There's no need to continue repeating yourself. I read it the first time. You should give it a try.