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I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 66 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Fallout 3. The criticism is absolutely fair*, but it was the first RPG I ever played and I'm still very fond of it.

* I never got the 'metros are hard to navigate' criticism, I never had that issues. Most of them are pretty linear.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Not going to lie, I like it quite a bit more than New Vegas. I understand several criticisms that people have, but 3 was by far the better experience for me.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 8 hours ago

Same here. NV was pretty boring to me while FO3 was actually fun.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, I'm an ardent 'New Vegas is the best 3D Fallout game' person.

But... Fallout 3 is not a bad game.

It is fun, it is enjoyable. It has solid game mechanics, it has a good number of well written characters and questlines, it is fun to just explore and find crazy shit.

It has flaws, yes.

But it is far from bad.

It just isn't as good as New Vegas, which imo, basically just did everything FO3 did, but better, had a better overall storyline, refined and improved on all the gameplay mechanics, added in new gameplay features/elements.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 19 hours ago

It also had some big gameplay departures from 1 & 2. I'm not talking about being an FPS (although no longer having to worry about accuracy was pretty significant) but the fact that putting on different clothing magically made you more intelligent, and that it was a lot easier to do everything.
In FO3 you can pick all the locks, hack all the computers, pass all the conversation checks, and take on hordes of enemies all by yourself. In FO1+2 you had to pick the couple of things you were good at and not be able to do the other things until your next run.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago

i dont think new vegas had better exploration. fo3 is still pretty unmatched in that. so many unmarked gems in fo3

[–] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FO3 is my favorite Fallout (haven't played 4 or 76 yet).

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Have you played 1, 2, or New Vegas?

[–] Zidane@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

1 & 2 I played a little bit. NV I 100% on steam a couple years ago and 360 many years ago. I did actually play 4 for about an hour. Was annoyed with how things had changed lol

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of the metros look copy and pasted; whole hallways, rooms, so it gets a little confusing.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure, Fallout 3 Geoguesser would be hard. Idk, I just never had a problem navigating them, even if they were a bit samey.

[–] TheHotze@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

To be fair, Fallout 3 is a bit more of a mixed bag of good and bad features.

[–] catalyst@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Guess that’s me too. I loved Fallout 3 and wasn’t really aware of a lot of hate for it.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fallout 3 for me works well as a sandbox and less as a narrative driven RPG. I had a lot of fun with it but I know if you went in expecting it to be something it’s not (like the first 2 fallout games) you’re gonna be disappointed.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I loved FO3. And coming from Bethesda, I was expecting a sandbox.

Actually, do people hate FO3? I thought it was well liked, even amongst New Vegas fanatics.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

It got a lot of backwards hate when 76 came out and it was suddenly really trendy to hate Bethesda. This is not to say that lots of people changed their mind on the game, though I'm sure some did, more that people who didn't like the game got more confident to speak up about disliking it. This is also around the same time the New Vegas became a huge darling in popular opinion.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I lived in D.C. when I played it. Between that and it being the first of its kind in the series, none of the others come remotely close for me.