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In a Thursday speech, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) chairman Paul S. Atkins announced “Project Crypto,” an initiative to modernize the country’s securities rules and regulations to move financial markets on-chain.

“Under my leadership, the SEC will not stand idly by and watch innovations develop overseas while our capital markets remain stagnant,” he said at an America First Policy Institute event in Washington D.C. His plan includes measures to reshore crypto businesses that have left the country and to ensure that “archaic rules and regulations do not smother innovation and entrepreneurship in America.”

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[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (39 children)

Genuine question, is crypto good for anything other than gambling at the moment? I don't ever hear of anyone buying anything with crypto, only exchanging it out for USD. NFTs are basically a punchline now... what is it actually good for?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's easy to transfer to other countries. Ever tried to send $20 to another country like Kazakhstan? It's a nightmare

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

easy to transfer to other countries

Also easy to transfer with IBAN and relatively cheap ... so I guess other countries that do not rely on IBAN?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a good way to launder money. They used to sell coke to fund off-the-books CIA operations, now they can just give them shitcoins.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used to buy a lot of pizza and burgers with bitcoin when I did night shifts. Still use it to buy electronics at least once a month.

It's also the best way to donate to nonprofit projects. I can just send ~ $10 of value, one time. No need to risk accidentally signing up for a monthly subscription or being bombarded by spam.

If you don't keep 100% of your monthly budget in BTC, you don't really care about the volatility either, because long term it always goes up.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

None of your examples are examples of what it is good for, since they can all be done by other means.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It was great to trade and move value around. You could send to other countries, or do work for it. But Bitcoin fucked it all by basically being a ponzi scheme. People below will talk about it and how it holds or increases in value. Thats because most people are still buying in and hording it. Making it terrible as a currency.

I never bought crypto, I only traded, bartered, worked for it. I never put it on an exchange or used another company. Another sink of value and a stupid place to keep it. But that is the vast majority of people now.

So it is not good for anything anymore. Except speculation and hoping your are not the last holding the bag.

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[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a really good way to bribe politicians and public figures.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's traceable and immutable. It's a bad way to do anything illegal.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

That's just layer zero on some blockchains.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 4 points 1 day ago

Crypto (ETH and the like) is useful for it's protocol, you can build projects on it.

Bitcoin is a good store of value, and with lightning payments starting to be accepted it could be a good way to pay for goods and services. The third world is currently using lightning to circumvent inflationary currency swings.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. Can you imagine my surprise when my drug money suddenly became mainstream? You could also buy weapons and order an assasin online.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where tf do you order an assassin online? It's an FBI agent on the other end for sure.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

https://wondery.com/shows/kill-list/

Not really. Just a bunch of volunteers trying to get the police all over the world to do their job.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not untraceable, but it's way more anonymous for routine purchases than CC. Also with all the nonsense the CC companies are pulling lately, it's a nice example of why de-centralized, unbanked fiat has real value. Personally I use it for search engine subscriptions and paying VPN fees with at least a layer of "hey, you can't sell my demographic data or send me junk mail" privacy. Also if you want to send money to someone without using venmo type garbage, it's super easy and flexible even if you don't have the same type of crypto as the person you are sending to. It's huge for sending money internationally as there are big fees associated with international money brokers when involving traditional fiat.
The mantra of crypto as a scam is wrong. It's just seriously overvalued and has been turned into scam as an investment commodity. The technology itself, at least modern scalable versions that don't require AI level nuclear power plants to scale, is not flawed. The fact that the archiac unscalable bitcoin prototype is still the most valued is a great example of the mismatch between real world value and the fucked up crypto marketplace.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Monero absolutely is untraceable

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

If things go as they do, then it'll be your only option soon to pay for porn.

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml -1 points 16 hours ago

Its good for evading the law.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. There are a few legitimate non gambling non crime uses. But those are typically very minor transactions. The problem is that it is somewhat anonymous and not refundable. It turns out that we really do want those features for almost all medium-high price purchases. Otherwise the thieves and scam artists will jack our shit.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe if you want to buy something visa, Mastercard, and Christian nut jobs don’t want you to have. Otherwise it’s a total scam.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Assuming you can find a buyer who will process that crypto, without touching either of those payment processors. All the crypto evangelists seem to forget the major crypto payment platforms are in use because you can actually rapidly exchange your crypto for that thing you can actually pay your rent with - but those function largely on the backbone of big payment platforms to trade that crypto into cash for the merchant.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I could be wrong, but I believe most exchanges use ACH to directly deposit into a person's bank account.

I'm no expert, but I believe ACH is separate from your Visas and MasterCards

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Monero is good for completely private and secure transactions. People often use it to buy drugs online... From what I've heard.

[–] icylobster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't a lot of platforms online not let you buy Monero because of this? Like how do people buy Monero through a reputable source?

Buy a reputable cryptocurrency then swap that for whatever you want.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was supposed to be the very thing that Paypal become (probably why Elon hedged his bet on it after getting kicked) but it became so inefficient with expensive transaction fees that everyone turned it down. As a consequence, it became a worse version of the stock market.

Mind you, this was before we even before we knew about the environmental damage.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't Newegg have some kind of crypto payment option? Do they still have it?

[–] O_i@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I funded my entire gaming pc with bitcoin, I believe they still accept it

[–] axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sui specifically is a unique horse in this race, as they are trying to really push for zero knowledge/trust models as well as what is known in cryptography spaces as multi party computation.

What this all effectively means long term is several things

  • moving between one cryptocurrency on one chain to another can be done without trusting a 3rd party 'bridge'
  • you still retain control of your assets on cryptocurrency exchanges utilizing the tech instead of trusting some 3rd party like Coinbase or Charles Schwab to fulfill their end of the bargain
  • with the raise of the bs porn ID laws, this tech coupled with the unique dynamic NFTs sui has could generate you a proof token that has your personal info hidden after verifying with some trusted company handing these token out and being able to use them at sites to prove you are an adult without revealing your name.

The problem with all of this of course is it is very new tech, and it's hard to break into a space that's littered with scammers running pyramid schemes or just pulling the rug out from under people and running with the money.

The tech is there to eliminate a lot of unnecessary middle men in the financial world, but like all shiny new things, it is still lacking mass adoption and formal govt rules around it. This greatly limits the utility of this for the common man to just sending money to friends who have an exchange to cash them out or just paying for things visa won't let you, like Pornhub or something.

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