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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

So just the “Appeal to futility” logical fallacy?

At some point, you have to recognize factory farming as a public policy decision rather than a retail choice. And the response has to be organized and political, not individualistic and consumerist.

You joining the current vegan population is significant!

It's significant for popular politics, sure. But a vegan community that satisfies itself with attaching blinders when they pass through the Bad Foods aisle at the grocery store is going to end up in the same place as the climate activist who only owns a bike.

The vegan population is estimated to be 9% in india and mexico, 5% in Israel, 2% in the UK, 1.5% in the US

The difference between the US and India is that if you go around trying to butcher cows in particularly devote areas of India, you're subject to serious political reprisals. In the US, it's practically a sacrament to eat burger.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

At some point, you have to recognize factory farming as a public policy decision rather than a retail choice

It is both, and both affect each other. False dichotomy?

a vegan community that satisfies itself with attaching blinders when they pass through the Bad Foods aisle at the grocery store is going to end up in the same place as the climate activist who only owns a bike.

Strawmaning what being a vegan is. It is far from just turning a blind eye.

The difference between the US and India is that if you go around trying to butcher cows in particularly devote areas of India, you're subject to serious political reprisals.

You know that they eat plenty of other animals right? If you go there, meat and animal products are a very big part of the local food.

I can't take these arguments seriously.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

It is both

It's induced demand. Increased capacity invited consumption.

You know that they eat plenty of other animals right?

Per capita they're heavily constrained. They have three times the population and one third the land area. They can't slaughter animals to match US consumption patterns even if they try.

That's incentivized a culture of veganism as normal and virtuous, as a consequence. And it has allowed the population to expand to 1.3B without experiencing rates of malnutrition common to more rural countries (Kenya, Argentina, and Haiti, for instance) where enormous stretches of land have been dedicated to feedstock.