how to belittle and minimize a very serious thing: call any protesters of it a " ___ vegan"
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2025
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I want to avoid it but with google making sure that search results get worse and worse I'm in a bit of a pickle. Other search engines still feel lile they're a bit behind though
Duck duck go
Unfortunately, it's not better and also shows slop
You can also get a search extension in firefox (probably others as well but I haven't looked)
It essentially strips the bullshit out and just shows you search results.
If you're willing to pay money then Kagi is a great alternative. They claim they don't collect or share your data. Though, Kagi isn't very good for local search results and probably never will be.
You've probably heard this before but do consider alternatives like Startpage and Qwant. It's not flawless but I've found it's definitely better.
I refuse to use it because it's shit.
We are not the same.
Every last bit of it? What is your stance on use of AI for tasks such as data analysis of massive sets for scientific research, or procedural automation of massive operations?
AI doesn't exist, machine learning algorithms can be useful and are used with no controversy, generative bullshit is basically useless.
You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving.
Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years.
I just don’t have a use for it. I already am generative AI.
you aren't artificial tho lol
Effectively I believe we are. During my MFA I realized we were simply copying as a form of craft. It's all we do in arts. Any great work feels like just one continuous story retold again and again.
i wonder if they came up with such term to mock those who dont want to use ai and possibly actual vegans on the side.
They use to mock us with “Luddite” but the Technologists looked into that actual movement (rather than the caricature) and agreed, “yeah sure, like them”. That took the sting out of the pejorative, so they picked another mocked group to connect it with.
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. Refusing to submit to corpo ratfuckery isn't a lifestyle choice. It's common sense.
I am a AI Freedom Fighter.
I'm one too!
Abstaining from a thing does not make one a vegan. That's not how any of this works.
But it makes people come off as extremely annoying. So that's working.
It's like how they put the word gate after something to say that it is a scandal involving the former word.
Somesort of political scandal involving road maintenance? Oh yes well that's roadgate then. Even though the Watergate scandal was in fact it scandal in the watergate hotel, rather than a scandal about water.
I'm sex vegan. Cry about it virgins
No animals harmed during sex...hmm
Disagreed. I am an animal.
I'm a sex vegetarian gotta be a bit open
I'm a sex pescatarian. I will not be answering questions.
Sex flexitarian is where it's at
No mayo in the bedroom? Why even bother.
Vegan aioli just doesn't cut it
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Yo
Reading this thread, I wonder if the term is intended to divide a largely environmentalist opposition.
Makes "nocoiner" seem tame by comparison.
There's a huge push right now to salvage the AI hype bubble as people realize the tech can't live up to the promises. They are also trying to prevent regulation.
This includes the pushes to humanize the tool, like saying it deserves rights or that there may be some kind of racism against the tool.
They're trying to pretend it's real AI rather than extremely complicated text prediction. Hell, the less knowledgeable among them might even believe it. LLMs are a sort of language pareidolia.
I don't use A.I. because I've had nothing but negative interactions with A.I. Customer service bots that fail to give adequate responses, unhelpful and incorrect search result summaries, and, "art," that looks like shit hasn't made me want to sign up for ChatGPT or Gemini. For most people, this isn't a moral stance, it's just that the product isn't worth paying for. Stop framing people that don't use A.I. as luddites with an ax to grind just because tech bros spent billions on a product that isn't good yet.
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Calling them after a maligned (if harmless) group seems like a choice to paint refusing to use AI as being annoying, preachy and scorn-worthy.
They seem very determined to pressure people into using AI regardless of it's practicality, environmental impact, or anything. Fuck this shit.
yeah, this is 1000% deliberate manufacturing consent
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The irony of environmental activists using the word "veganism" while not being vegan 😒 (being vegan is one of the most significant reduction to greenhouse emissions that is within your personal choice)
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